Another month has passed and once again it has been a very interesting education of your thoughts and concerns. Thank you to all that have posted and we look forward to hearing more of your comments.If you are confused about how to post on the blog or feel more comfortable e-mailing me your comments and concerns, please do so and we will post it for you.
E-mail: dustin.mcintyre@yahoo.com
Dustin McIntyre, Gateway News and www.gatewaynews.org
298 comments:
1 – 200 of 298 Newer› Newest»GN: any truth to the rumor that Commerce City Golf Course (Buffalo Run) is already decided to be sold?
I have a problem with Commerce City Manager words: “It’s encouraging to know that even with the economy slowing in the past couple of years, Commerce City has continued to develop”
Is it not a fact that Commerce City has been stuck in a rut at 45.000 to 46,000 residents since 2006?
Right before Flannery was hired?
If not mistaken, we were suppose to be around 65,000 to 70,000 by 2010.
great story about Reunion.
http://www.denverpost.com/realestate/ci_17482983
Denver Post: "Mile High Music Festival expected to skip this year"...
Click: http://tinyurl.com/4so6ojb
I want to make a quick comment regarding the Commerce City Mile High Music Festival taking a "hiatus" in 2011...
This is really sad news. The MHMF was becoming a annual tradition for the city of Commerce City that it could be proud of.
It was becoming something to look forward too, not to mention it was a great advertising piece for Commerce City.
It created an environment of excitement that will be difficult to re-create.
I hope this event will return in the very near future... BACK IN COMMERCE CITY!!!
Nicely put Dustin,
Why did you say "I hope this event will return in the very near future... BACK IN COMMERCE CITY"
Do you know something we don't know?
Every year in the MHMF media area there is always has been chatter about the event possibly going to Denver or Jefferson County (Lakewood)...
Of course half the people in the media area also think the event was already in Denver. So that gives you an idea of how smart they are...
BUMMER NEWS about the music festival in Commerce City.
I guess this will not be in the state of the city?
why can't jerry flannery write chuck morris a letter like he did to walmart?
Seems to me they could still have the Mile High Music Festival if they would just scale it back a bit. No need to have such a monster of an event. Any talk of maybe still having it, but making it much smaller?
Lets all be honest, The mile high music festival was never Commerce City's.
It started in Denver by Denver people.
It just ended up there because of logistics.
If it does come back it should be moved to Denver city limits, the real MILE HIGH CITY!
Dusty,
Easy for you to say the music festival was so great. That is because you don't actually live here. For those of us who do, the traffic was awful, the city never saw any revenue from it, the money was always filtered down to Stapelton, and the noise was awful. they pointed the stage right at the neighborhoods on 60th in 2009 and played to the early morning. I speak a a lot of others when I say GOOD Riddins!
Commerce City losing the MHMF is worse news for Denver then Commerce City.
Dustin: Rumor is maybe they might still have it but in a smaller capacity? Any truth to that?
Dustin,
Lovely statement about the MHMF.
But it is not your job to promote Commerce City. Just be neutral.
Dustie,
How did you know about the Mile High Music Festival not coming. I see your twitter was 12 hours ago?
was informed by email, a while ago. needed to wait for verification.
NO MUSIC FESTIVAL?
does this mean we can fire Brittany now?
SO it is all talk about how great the economy is and how we all are optimistic about the way the city is doing, until reality hits us right smack in the face as the Mile High Music Festival not coming.
People BEWARE! people will talk and talk and talk. Have the common sense enough to actually trust your gut feeling. Things are not going good.
There are so many things wrong here!
I would like to give the point of view, that the announcement of the Mile High Music Festival is not because on the economics of Commerce City alone. We as an entire state are recovering. Yes, things are getting better, but we still have a ways to go. We need to try to stay positive and work together. It is unfair and uneducated to say that because the Mile High Music Festival is not coming this year, it is the only fault of Commerce City economics. Simply NOT TRUE. Many, many factors went into the decision of canceling the event this year.
hate to say it, but I agree with Pro Spin City 2.0 (new and approved)
music festival only had people from Denver attend. I would be willing to bet not a lot of Commerce City residents actually went. It has more to do with the overall economical situation and not just Commerce City.
Whoever made the comment that this announcement hurts Denver more then Commerce City is right on target.
rumor: festival could still happen, just smaller?
GN, can you confirm?
From Commerce City: "No discussions for a festival this year – it’s on hiatus due to the economy. AEG indicated to the city they are optimistic that the festival and other events could return to Commerce City in the future – they continuously promote the venue to acts."
Why does the people of commerce city care about the mhmf? you don't get much from it. Denver makes all the money and your taxes have to clean up after them. The advertisers lists it as in Denver. Hotels and restaurants are booked in adjacent cities. Oh, the major news outlets makes fun of you for it.
Congratulations to the person from last month who sold their home and moving elsewhere. So many of us wish we could sell.
I find it so weird that when the first year of the festival was announced the mayor and Flannery and City Council gave us all the impression with their comments and behavior that they were somehow responsible (we all know they had nothing to do with it) because they originally wanted to have it in Denver City Park, but Denver said no. Denver recently changed rules that now allow for profit events in City Parks - I wonder where it will go if it comes back at all? So if they take responsibility for it coming to Commerce City why don't they take responsibility for it not coming - from a core City dweller- I am glad it is gone because it never caused anything but trouble down here and the City never made a dime.
sad stat of affairs when people are happy to move out of a city.
What incentive does AEG Live have by having this event in Commerce City?
I do think it will end up in Denver eventually, if it even comes back at all.
I think AEG Live is really busy getting acts into the event center on highway 36.
So Morris says no MHMF because of economy?
It has absolutely nothing to do with Dick's not being a destination spot?
I for one am NOT optimistic that it will ever come back to Commerce City.
Bands will be broken up into smaller concerts at red rocks and other places that people actually want to go to to see concerts. That folks is NOT Dick's in Commerce City.
Commerce City meets with U.S. Lacrosse to discuss 2014 World Lacrosse Championships that will be played at Dick's in Commerce City, CO
GOOD COMMERCE CITY! Lacrosse is cool right?
To the complainers (who do nothing else) I too hope you can move and will pray for cosmic assistane for you to relocate.
Just caught up on the mayor twitter.
One statement was Live Nation's loss quadrupled this past year..... maybe Mile High Music wanted to not fall into the same situation?????
here we go again...Flannery and Morris will tell us and City Council how "they" brought the 2014 World lacrosse championships to Commerce City.It surely has nothing to do with the stadium and the surrounding 24 fields - it will all be because of the efforts of staff and City Council. Flannery better get some development going at Hollow Victory Crossing by 2014 or the great event he will claim to have brought us will cost the City instead of make it money given all of the players and spectators will be spending their money in Stapleton hotels, restaurants and shops - just like the Music Festival that no longer exists. Does anyone want to bet me that the advertising for the "World" Lacross Championships will say - DENVER?
dusty.
anyway you can post vidoe of the adams 14 top student on your cover stories?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDMDaQORMc4
Why does Lacrosse have to meet with City? Dick's doesn't need to get blessing or permission from the City to hold a tournament whether it be soccer, lacrosse or extreme frisbee. They can do whatever the laws allow for the property.......Mayor and City Manager always have to make it sound like nothing happens in CC unless they say so or were directly involved - get real Mayor your job is to smile and read the proclamations declaring it National Hamburger Day and not much more than that.
Gee if Flannery and council could wave a magic wand, and make restaurants and hotels appear (overnight no less) some like you....would say they had nothing to do with it. They again would get no credit and only more complaints.
It really gets old, that there are some in this city who like to always try to point out something negative.
I swear, if Christ himself came down and said something good about the city staff or council, you would say it too was a set up.
I remember the old city manager who did have to buy our awards (that was the only way we were recognized in a positive way).
US Lacrosse should meet with Commerce City officials about 2014 championships. It is more of a right thing to do. No matter if they need to or not.
a rumor on Denver Post stated: "by ThoughtSausage on March 1st, 2011, 5:06am: Phish is already rumored to be playing Dicks over Labor Day weekend. Thank goodness they arent playing a festival here with the likes of Kayne West, Dave Matthews, and Tom Petty.
Gateway News asked Commerce City: "Is city working with AEG on a possible 2-day Phish concert for labor day this year?"
Answer was No.
Dustie, I like this. Kill the rumor dead in its tracks. Some rumors are true and some are false. Best thing to do is just ask and get the truth out there.
Dustie, maybe it is not AEG Live, maybe it is someone else?
German McCloy Fellowship delegation will visit Commerce City March 21st to 23rd... Purpose is economic development, tourism and government.
dusty, where is Germans staying when they come? In Commerce City?
WHAT!!!!!!!!! Germans will not be staying in Commerce City!!!!!!!! That is FUNNY! Where would they stay? the High U????????
Why cant they stay in the tax payers/city managers house in the north?
funny how commerce city has a 17,000 capacity stadium but no hotel chain to speak of. oh well, maybe some day.
Wes and Archer. I am waiting for you two to start your council/mayor campaigns.
I think both of you would be perfect and I would support you getting really involved.
why is we up north keep our trash cans out of sight but the inter city they dont have to. I know I live in a good neighborhood but i visisted some friends and there are many houses with the cans visable. Doesn't city council relize this looks bad. I dont see this in other cities
Whatever, there is trash all over the median on 104th in the NORTH too. Also a big pile of rocks at 104th and Pontiac. very Dangerous when motorcycles start come out when it gets warmer.
Matter of fact who's job is it to clean the HUGE 104th median and make sure there are no Rocks on the road. I think kids are kicking them into the street. Nothing else for the kids in the north to do.
WES! BETTER RUN FOR MAYOR! SINCE HE SEEMS TO HAVE THE ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING!
Can't help but wonder why the city is suppose to provide kids "something to do". Where are the parents involvement.
Is it another case of being "owed".
When my kids tell me they are bored, I always could find them things to do.
Where are the parents of these kids "kicking" rocks into the roadway.
It is time we are responsible....oops did I actually say that horrible word...responsible.
Yes, Wes or Archer
Please listen to those encouraging you to run.
Otherwise the word on the street is we will be going back to the under table deals of before.
I don't want that.
Even with the problems that you speak of now, you can help with change and a good future. Please help that to become a reality.
we have to be smarter voting for a mayor this go around and hopefully we'll get some good candidates.
The last mayoral election it was more a vote for or against nascar. As a result we got stuck with a ward 2 person who fights for ward 1 and a mayor who ignores and fights against US citizens.
Can't help but wonder why the city is suppose to provide kids "something to do".
What are rec. center for? What are parks for?
City is suppose to provide a safe, healthy environment where people can flourish.
Maybe if we had more things for the kids in the North to do, we would have people who would actually want to be here.
At this last city council meeting, the Director of Parks and Recreation presented a request for about $11,000 to have the original architect of the twenty year old Rec Center develop a plan of action to bring the kitchen area into compliance with current standard requirements for a commercial license for the sale of food to the community. The kitchen at the old rec center was never designed to actually sell food for community members to eat. The topic of discussion was a senior birthday luncheon. The CC Rec program currently caters this event at a cost of $15 per person and charges seniors $6 to 7.00 per person to eat. Which is about what it would cost to go to lunch at a local restaurant. Staff at the rec center have known since 2007 that this kitchen area has been out of compliance and that's why they currently use a catering service. Other cities around us use catering services or some have spent the money it costs to get a commercial license. Staff estimates that it would cost between $400 to 500,000 dollars to bring our kitchen facilities up to commercial standards. It was also suggested that it would cost thousands more to up grade kitchen plumbing to be in compliance with South Adams County's water standards. This plan could also include an expensive addition to the old rec building to house the new commercial kitchen. As a taxpayer, I do not want to pay out another three-quarters of a million dollars just to build a kitchen for senior birthday lunches and cooking classes. If, there is a need to build a commercial kitchen in an addition to the old rec center, I would like to see that kitchen built in a new recreation building in the Northern area and we could save thousands of dollars and meet all Seniors needs. One more time, this plan pours money we don't have into just one area to meet the needs of half the city. Pay these architects the money and develop a plan for a small recreation center and commercial kitchen up North that we can build onto as we grow and just continue to cater functions at the old rec center. Staff did not say how many seniors attended this birthday luncheon.
hmmm. that is interesting. I think I agree with Estelle. Sounds like a LOT on money for little benefit.
The city of Commerce City ALREADY owns a kitchen! Don't the OWN the Bison Grill. You want a senior Birthday, take them up to the Northern Range to the city owned restaurant.
Just make sure you get the food your going to cook down in the south. We do not have any grocery stores up here now.
not a fan of archer, but that was a good thought.
From Denver Post article
Colorado tax break intended for struggling farmers enriches developers, investors
In Adams County, Denver sports mogul Stan Kroenke's real estate firm owns 54 ag parcels in Brighton near Interstate 76, ranging from less than an acre to more than 500 acres. The tax bill is $3,200.
But the plans for Kroenke's land don't include crops. The land is part of the massive Prairie Center housing, retail and commercial development.
Picture is becoming more clear now
Kroenke has deals with Prairie Center in Brighton and Prairie Gateway (aka Victory Crossings) in Commerce City.
AH HA! Just made a bunch of sense.
I thought everyone know Stan Kronke had land in Commerce City and Brighton, he is suppose to develop both, so far it has only been the Brighton area. If anyone can figure out why this is, that will be good news.
not hard to figure out. Prairie Center was planned before the area around the Rapids Stadium.
It will happen, just need some patience.
great comment: Commerce City has been experiencing difficulty with regard to receipt of bad checks for payment of sales and use taxes owed to the City.
Any chance these are Commerce City tea party businesses?
http://www.commercecityteaparty.org/
stan kronkke is a farmer? who knew?
My family in Kentucky brought this to my attention. The city of Lexington, KY hired Angelou Economics to create their economic development plan. Angelou was also hired by Commerce City to do their economic development plan last year. Angelou was caught “recycling and plagiarizing their old plans” by some vigilant citizens and now Lexington wants their money back for the plan. One of the recycled plans is the plan from Commerce City. Angelou has been doing this for awhile and now it is in the news. See for yourself:
http://www.progresslex.org/2011/03/03/angelou-economics-recommendations-are-oddly-familiar/
and:
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/Questioned_raised_about_accuracy_of_economic_report_meant_for_Lexington_117438004.html
It looks like Angelou cannot create a new economic development plan at all. How good is our ED plan and how much is copied from other cities? How much did we pay for this unoriginal plan? Who from the city signed off on this? Maybe we should ask for our money back too.
hey anonymous you are right, I think we are on the same page. If Jesus Christ himself showed up in Commerce City - Flannery and the other tubby arrogant jerk (Natale) would try to take credit for it....that is my point exactly.
You Mr. anonymous ie: Mr Flannery and arogant Natale, sound like you are filled with sour grapes.
Can't help but wonder who you really are??
Dusty,
Regarding your report on the Kentucky situation of the firm AngelouEconomics-
I don't see how this relates to the city of Commerce City. I understand that the firm may have been caught in a very minor discrepancy, but the city of Commerce City is very satisfied with the presented, very unique report for Commerce City.
You are comparing apples to oranges.
Commerce City has learned very valuable information from the Angelou Study.
AngelouEconomics is a very highly respected firm in the industry.
This small story will not hurt them one bit!
yes pro cities!
the angelou work for commerce city is a winning study!
we are all winners in Commerce City. WHY? Because we are being lead by winners!
WOW Dustie, you got BOTH pro cities to comment!
Go figure!
I got a good question: Now, this is out in the public, would Commerce City ever hire ANGELOU again?
The junior high mentality of name calling "tubby" Natale, shows the lack of thinking people.
When people resort to this type of blogging it shows their lack of carrying on a intelligent conversation.
Here we go with the Spin Cities. I am sure there is no way that the absolutely brilliant Flannery and Morris could have been dimwitted enough to pay over $100,000 to Angelou for a "stock" plan that just had minor modifications from plans produced for other cities. Hey Gateway why don't you find out for all of us -I bet they were dimwitted enough given their relative lack of experience in the jobs we taxpayers and our "representatives" have bestowed upon them for reasons unknown. Having been a citizen somewhat involved with the City Comprehensive Plan I can assure the plan was very specific to Commerce City because the Planning Department made sure it was,but they are experienced people in their fields not liars, shmoozers and butt kissers who will do and say anything to get a job or a promotion like those in the City Manager's Office and those he hired or promoted.
From Commerce City Angelou Report SERIOUSLY:
"RECOMMENDED NICHE TARGETS
Venues for dining and entertainment
In addition to elevating the quality of life for Commerce City residents, eating establishments and entertainment venues are a necessary amenity for today’s corporate culture. Many businesses in Commerce City are international companies that often host collegues and clients who are visiting from abroad. International and local businesses alike need venues for entertaining guests; because Commerce City does not offer these kinds of services, residents and employers are spending money outside of the city to meet these needs. Commerce City needs to expand hospitality options to capture this revenue stream and at the same enhance the business climate for area companies.
Hotels
Closely related to the need for food & drink and entertainment venues is the need for accomodations in this area. One need within this category would be business class hotels, which offer basic amenities such as in-room internet. Hotel options, from basic to business-class, are important not only to for business travelers, but for
potential tourists and residents hosting friends and family as well. With the offerings at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park expanding to include large music festivals, Commerce City will be missing out on tourist dollars if visitors must look for accomodations outside of the city.
Sports and health related retail
When taken in combination, Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, the Rocky Mountain Wildlife Arsenal Refuge and the Barr Lake State Park constitute a wealth of sports and outdoor amenity and activity options. Retail that specializes in sports and soccer apparel and equipment would be a good fit as many soccer enthusiasts are entering the city for events year-round."
Please tell me that we did not spend more then $100 on this BS Study! Did we?
According to Commerce City...
"The three AngelouEconomics reports totaled $80,000."
80 grand for "Operation Commerce"
should be renamed to "operation obvious"
was that really money well spent?
what did we really learn from this?
things we already knew- Commerce City has a challenge with image, school district has much to be desired. our front door has stapleton, denver, our backdoor has prairie center, brighton, we had a population boom, we have a large hispanic population.
What NEW information did we learn from angelou?
ps- for 89 grand it seems like the report should not have spelling mistakes?
PRO CITY,
you say this is "apples and oranges"?
Aren't we talking about the same company? It is about the integrity. A word that needs to be seriously looked at in the November election.
integrity- adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
NICE wes,
so is that going to be your campaign slogan!!!!!!!!!
cant wait to have you in office, since you have such vast knowledge of how things SHOULD be run!!!!!!
wes,
Forgot to say. It is really easy to call out audibles from the sideline. MUCH different from actually being in the game!!!!!!!!!
Looking at the Angelou report. I too dont really see any "new" information.
Dusty, can you find out if city really did learn anything from it?
about the angelou study-
“This comprehensive process will clearly identify the critical economic development issues to address going forward,” said Brittany Morris, economic development director with the City of Commerce City . “With these in mind, we can set goals and strategies for economic development and business growth for the coming years.”
My question is what was identified (issues) and what strategies have been formed?
is bison grill open still? or do they have weird hours?
Bison Grill is open for business.
Website is:
http://www.buffalorungolfcourse.com/golf/proto/buffalorungolfcourse/dining/dining.htm
Open @ 8:00am 7 Days a week
Breakfast & Lunch Service Everyday
Dinner Service - Wednesday thru Saturday
I live in the north.
I have kids in 27J and I only speak English.
what does this mean? 75% of the city news publication is useless to me.
Why does the city continue to print in Spanish and only news about Adams 14?
City news publication lets both school districts publish in their paper to help give them coverage and limit costs.
Therefore both are sent to all. The info comes from the school districts themselves.
p.s. it certainly may not interest you, but it I find it interesting to know what both districts in our city are doing.
from commerce city cultural council
Plans for a summer concert series in Commerce City?
public arts consultant?
Any exciting things happening here?
I never saw news about 27J in city news. And what about Spanish?
The new census numbers are self explanatory about why the city will continue to print in Spanish.
Regarding: "Plans for a summer concert series in Commerce City?"
Commerce City responded: "Yes, the cultural council is in the planning stages for a summer concert series. Look for more information soon as details are finalized."
Facts about Houses in Reunion area since January 1st:
13 Sold, 54% of them were "distressed" (i.e. bank owned, short sales, etc)
Avg Sold Price was $228,000
Avg Days on Market 110 (which is pretty standard across the board!)
Of the 38 that are currently for sale....
...Avg. Asking Price is $256,000
Avg Days on Market is 98
34% of the houses for sale currently are "distressed"
Concert series! GOOD NEWS, Something to do this summer!
Hey, its not MHMF, but a concert series would be wonderful in Commerce City. Wonder where it will be?
PERFECT PLACE is the reunion south lawn area. There is a stage already built. GREAT GREAT GREEEEEEAT IDEA.
Pro city....you are assuming that all people with spanish/mexican last names do NOT read english.
I highly doubt that and resent that assumption.
I would imagine that if one could really find out the truth, it is a very small percentage that only read spanish.
Any news about the new deputy city manager? Neelan is still up on the city website.
In regards to Angelou, cheating on a $150,000 study and report is NOT MINOR! Good God, pro city and pro city 2, please join us back in reality where a dollar means something to people. Obviously it doesn't to you both so it makes me wonder if any dollars you have access too are ones you worked for. Or do you just suck off the taxpayers and sit on your !@#$.
the pro city guy is an idiot and his logic is very flawed. It's part of the reason the city has gone nowhere fast since natale's been mayor.
Based on his thinking: for concert series, we should have only have mariachi/carnival music in the south and American music in the north, right?
Commerce City Police department will hold a class for students, teachers and community members on Bullying and Cyber-Bullying on Thursday, Mar.31st, at 6:30 to 7:30 pm at the Civic Center. For whatever reason, Bullying is on the increase at school, work and on different Blogs. We can disagree without name calling and put downs especially on adult venues.
Brian McBroom named deputy city manager of Commerce City...
http://tinyurl.com/4owvxju
Our prayers go out to the people of Japan who are dealing with a 8.9 earthquake...
Estelle, I suspect a couple of the name callers are people setting themselves up for a run for mayor or council.
I've already heard that they plan to try and claim the city struggles (mostly economic) are the current mayors fault.
Funny as he is one vote, but yes I guess he should have stopped the economic down fall.
The Flannery thing was directed by ex-council Drotar along with McEldowny, but they won't mention that.
Should be an interesting election and I sure hope we get some new blood to run. People will need to educate rather than listen to the propaganda.
Is Brian getting a car fund like Tom and Jerry?
Japanese Earth Quake is so Sad!
You should all take a break from being mean and take time to really think what we are doing!
We need to remember what is important to us all.
For me it is Heath and a good positive healthy place to live.
to the anonymous writer about the sad situation in Japan, and focusing in on what is important.
I say AMEN.
As a people we are so focused on what is not important.
My God we could lose our families and everything.
We still live in a great country.
We can work together to make it better.
When? DENVER: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:00 p.m.
Where? SE corner of Lincoln and Colfax (near Capitol building)
Bring: Signs, water, snacks
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Spread the word! Grassroots protest together in support of the protests in Wisconsin, but also to:
* Protest GOP efforts to subvert our democratic and legal insitutions (Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin)
* Protest union-busting legislation – now in at least 17 states
* Protest tax breaks& bailouts for Wall street & other rich corporations
* Protest budget cuts to education, medicaid, and other essential services
* Make it clear that we stand for worker’s rights
* Let the GOP know we won’t tolerate them passing bills illegally and subverting the legislative process
Here are some facts, in case you aren’t aware:
* Wed. March 9th, Repub senators in Wisconsin took all fiscal items out of their “Budget Repair” bill and rammed through their union busting provisions. Less than 2 hours notice was given for the special committee meeting in violation of WI Open meetings law AND they passed it while a Democratic legislator was telling them the meeting was illegal. Let’s send a message this is not OK, in WI or anywhere else!
* GOP is giving tax breaks to corporations at Federal and State levels while cutting education, medicaid, welfare, housing subsidies for the elderly, etc. Why give money to the rich when the rest of us are struggling to get by? Why balance the budget on the backs of our kids?
* Wall Street C-level executives continue to get huge bonuses and salaries even after the bail-out — with our money!
* In Michigan, on 3-10, Repubs passed a bill that gives the governor the power to declare a state of emergency ANYWHERE he chooses, and abolish unions, contracts, even ENTIRE ELECTED TOWN GOVERNMENTS. Gives him the power to designate one person to run that area — and the GOP rejected a Dem amendment that would limit that person’s salary to no more than the governor’s ($159K/year). How is that about the budget?
* In Arizona, a bill is on the table to give the Governor the right to set up a militia FOR ANY PURPOSE SHE CHOOSES
The Republicans are moving across the nation to steal your civil liberties, and send your money to the rich. Tell them: WE’VE HAD IT!!!
Anonymous, you are so right, one vote doesn't do much on city council. For example, different council members are forming agreements to push expensive projects through that benefit small groups of people before our next elections. Like, the purposed new commercial kitchen and public room for the Rec Center for over $500,000. The political balance of city council is very important. We need to get people on council that are not self motivated or support just half of the city. There are several good qualified individuals that would like to see changes come to city council and I hope as we begin this next election process that voters can get these people into office. It feels useless to go before council and voice one's opinion because they are promoting their own agenda.
Estelle, do you realize your friend Mr. Benson, is the big proponent of the kitchen remodel.
It is his push that has directed this.
Yes, this is not in his ward, but that is of no suprise.
FYI Estelle,
I agree that we need some new faces on council.
Having said that are you aware that some of the "old" movers/shakers in the city are trying to go backward and bring previous council/mayor members back in. That will return us to the black sheep city we were.
Come on new blood, we need you!
Thank you, for allowing me to comment on Mr. Benson's support of upgrading the Rec Center Kitchen. What Carolyn Keith presented was a need to meet Tri County Health's requirements for using the current kitchen which was addressed in 2007 by the Rec Center Director. At that time, it was decided to just cater the few senior events rather than pay a lot of money for an upgrade. Now, Carolyn is asking that the kitchen be upgraded so that seniors can cook and retail for their own events on-site. Mr. Benson is supporting the idea of a kitchen upgrade. Asking that bids be taken and given to get the work done as cheaply as possible for the seniors. He has not supported the idea of paying for an architect to design a new addition. However, if you watch this presentation over again and take notes, like, I did. Other council members want to "teach cooking classes to children of all ages." This would require: a culinary kitchen to be built, a public room for classes, expensive cooking equipment and perhaps hiring a chef to teach culinary arts. This is better left to a vocational training school. The Rec Center has about 1200 classes to support. This would be a very expensive project if we intend to provide culinary training. Mr. Benson was only supporting the upgrade of the kitchen so that seniors could cook for special activities which should cost as little as $100,000 or less which I would also support. But, my first choice would be to take the seniors to Bison Grill and let the professionals cook for them. Other council members are saying that we would have to do a complete renovation of the 1987 Rec Center. It sounds like the right decision was made in 2007 and we should stick to it.
Bison Grill sounds like a great idea. Also, if kids want to learn to be a chef, I thought the new Adams City High School had a complete culinary teaching Kitchen. Why can't they utilize that route?
"old" movers/shakers in the city are trying to go backward?
Are you Kidding? What forward progress have we made in the last 4 years?
No development around City Hall, No Development in the Newlands, A top heavy staff that is costing us dearly. Foreclosures Galour in the newlands.
We are not in a Golden Era in Commerce City now! Quit trying to fool the residents. They do see what is going on!
When people see the city in a dead rut, they will go back to what was good, and yes that would be good past council members to right the ship that has been badly commanded the last 6 years.
I welcome the old council members, If they decide to run, I am not saying any are, I am saying if they decide to run.
I am not so sure going back to past council people is such a good idea. Not saying they were necessarily bad leaders. "New Blood" as you call it, is always a good idea.
You getting these people who make being on city council a lifetime job is just asking for trouble. That is why term limits are GREAT and should always stay in place.
The BIG problem with Commerce City is that the citizens are just not interested in run for elected positions.
Maybe the council pay needs to be evaluated.
Too bad this issue is such a taboo that one that current council is too scared to touch it.
Something should be done to make this endeavor of being a elected official WORTH WHILE!
FYI-Residents in Brighton are not into running for council either.
Brighton also has problems with getting residents to apply for boards and commissions.
Estelle,
Just because I completely disagree with a lot of what you say. Does not mean I am being a bully.
I have real issues with your views of what you call immigrants.
These are people. No HUMAN is ILLEGAL!
hey Cheo,
by definition, if a person is in the USA illegally, then I guess that makes them illegal.
So some HUMANS ARE ILLEGAL
Forget a CC Council pay raise.
The real issue that the city will face is eventually all of the AT-LARGE council members, the mayor will be from the northern range!
System needs to be changed to have 2 council members per ward!
Currently only 1 AT-LARGE council member is from the core city!
Not right! Change is needed!
COMMON SENSE FOR THE COMMON GOOD!
Hey Core City,
This is the Northern Range,
We will trade you Jim Benson for either Tracey or Dominick.
What do you think?
Council Trade offer is HILARIOUS!
Yes! Commerce City should have trades just like sports do!
Love this Blog!
Unforunately, Mr Flannery chose to stick his thumb to his nose at city council and the residents of this city by appointing Mr McBroom to deputy City Manager. Commerce City does not need another 100,000+ salary position for a city this size, all the while Mr Flannery is no where to be seen and has no interest in managing the city.
Right the ship???
Get real, core comments.
So now the entire economic downturn, a national crisis, is this councils' fault.
We have gained respect in the last few years, in the metro area.
The laughter and snickers about the inside deals, family meals, limos etc, paid for by the taxes, are no longer a reality.
One of the past council members, provided the numbers, basically wrote the contract and worked hard to convience the council to vote for the city managers contract. Then skipped out when time to vote , so they could say they didn't vote for it
. That "type" of "leadership" we don't need any longer.
I say please, we need new faces with fresh honest ideals.
Anonymous says- "We have gained respect in the last few years, in the metro area. The laughter and snickers about the inside deals, family meals, limos etc, paid for by the taxes, are no longer a reality."
Well, the REALITY now is that Denver Metro area is laughing and snickering about the "out in public" deals like giving the city manager Jerry Flannery $72,000 for a house that he made a profit on.
There is NO wal mart in the north as promised in the 2010 state of the city. There is car allowances that are OUT OF CONTROL!
There is Top Shelf staff that are over paid and do nothing but hold meetings and tell each other how great they are.
There is NOTHING going on around the new civic center.
We spent a lot of money on out side consultants that gave us information that we already knew.
We have a economic incentive program that is nothing more then a prime example of Desperate times call for Desperate measures.
City Government is suppose to provide services and protection, that is it, not become a incubator for Staff to "Develop Professional" so they can leave us high and dry like Deputy City Manger Neelan did!
I say we are damn lucky that the population did not hit 70,000 resident as once projected. We simply do not have the budget to handle that type of growth.
Bottom line, the last 6 years have NOT been a GOLDEN ERA in Commerce City. We have been out maneuvered by both Brighton and Denver.
We are the BLACK SHEEP Adams County.
You want to continue with tell yourself that the Emperor has Cloths go right ahead, but I guarantee that you are in the minority.
One thing to add:
One has to ask, did Mr. Flannery hire internally for the deputy city manager position to quiet down the comments about the city always hiring outside talent?
Just a question for you all to ponder.
Real CORE COMMENTS:
Current leaders in Commerce City has brought in the international community, has brought a highly respected business (Cummins), just to name a few.
Has brought in a sense of professionalism that this city has NEVER seen!
You are completely wrong in your view of the city and it is really SAD!
PRO city 2.0,
What international community has been brought in?
What "professionalism"? The many consultants and studies? Why can't our "cream of the crop" do this in-house?
CUMMINS? what about Fed-Ex brought in in 2006?
"Professionalism never seen before?" I take major offense to that comment!
Your Sad and you will see major change in NOV.
Pro City vs. Core Comments
Sunday Fight Night!
Can Gateway ask if the city/developer of the new victory crossing area in Commerce City is going to launch a marketing campaign soon, like maybe a website for starters?
Something like what Adams Crossing has?
friend of Commerce City
GN- I like the angelou report. Interesting update from ProgessiveLEX
http://www.progresslex.org/
fitting for Commerce City?
wonder what CCBPA thinks of our study?
Just some ideas I thought I would throw out there
Just to set the record straight:
Cummins came to the city- the city did not come to Cummins. The city did help finalize the deal with the incentive package. The ED dept just reacted, like they would do for any possible client. Ask their broker- Fuller real Estate-if you dont believe me.
Friend of Commerce city, things are in the works, but believe it or not, there are other people involved that have their say in some of the planning, ie: Kronke for one.
Real Core Comments,
I have to agree with others.
Our city's image is much better than when I moved here in the north area.
The building stoppage has nothiing to do with council or staff, or you have to blame all councils and all staff nationally.
p.s. if the growth had continued, the revenue would have also grown. Basic economics!!
There is NO doubt Commerce City Image has improved and YES it is the current council that has achieved this feat.
Image still an issue, but were getting there!
GN- any word on WAL MART maybe building one of those new "WAL MART EXPRESS" stores in the new lands up north?
I can answer Wal-Mart Express question.
The original plan is for a regular Wal-Mart, not a Wal-Mart Express.
City Council members are meeting with Colorado’s congressional representatives this week to preserve federal funding for important Commerce City projects and programs. Without three key grant programs, Commerce City would not have been able to hire four police officers, revitalize a historic business district, or complete an energy audit to improve sustainability. Council also will advocate for a locally preferred transportation project – the final ramp of the Tower Road/Pena Boulevard interchange – to ensure improved access to and from Denver International Airport.
"revitalize a historic business district?" Are they talking about Derby? If so, maybe they should visit Derby and then see if they still call it "revitalize".
love the spin cartoon! So true.
GN- can you ask Commerce City- According to new regulations within the Americans with Disabilities Act a pit bull is now classified as a “service dog” for people with disabilities.
With that in mind can Commerce City PLEASE re-visit the current city wide Pit Bull Ban?
Thanks for all you do! Keep up the good Work!
I will pass the message along...
But you might have more luck by actually going to a council meeting and asking them face to face.
Actually that is NOT TRUE. A resident did go to a council meeting and asked for the council to re-visit the issue and NOTHING happened. You have a video of this on your YouTUBE site.
Can you ask them?
I will pass the message along. Thanks for your comments.
Hey Dusty,
Why your asking about Pit Bulls, shy not ask Commerce City why they are not enforcing the boot leg housing signs all over 104th avenue? I know that is the road a bunch of the staff take to get to work and nothing has been done about it.
Why do we have codes, if we are not going to enforce them?!
GN- Rocks are still on 104th and Pontiac too. Warmer conditions are going to bring out the motorcycle rides. DANGEROUS DANGEROUS DANGEROUS!
I would like to encourage the residents to utilize the AskC3 feature on the Commerce City website.
http://user.govoutreach.com/commercecity/faq.php
If I remember correctly the city council asked staff to ease the restrictions on builders signs, allowing them to be put back up.
This was done for a period of time to help the builders get started again after the economy sank.
Personally the signs say to me that the builders are back at it again, and that is a good sign.
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so where do we go in the north to wash our cars?
There is still a CAR WASH by del taco at 104th and the Tower area.
CC council will ever take on pay raise for elected official like Denver is doing?
dusty, your twitter about the business update is missing the Archibald Family Dentistry.
They are in the same building as the Reunion Orthodontics.
isnt 7 11 walmart express but with higher prices?
People people people, please do not waste your time or frustrate yourselves by going to the city website and using their "feature" Askc3. It is a joke like everything else with Commerce City. You will not get an answer and if you ask anything that they don't like, they will have neighborhood services and the police department visit your house and you will get citations. Its really a ton of fun. Don't believe me, try it out.
Hey city "leaders" did you ever think that just maybe the residents of the city know what they are talking about? You are so smart but yet you get nothing done. Yet when a citizen dares to attend council and tell you what is wrong and what you should do or attend a business summit you put on and take the opportunity to complain about what is hurting their Commerce City businesses, you do NOTHING but tell them thank you, go sit down and shut up because the city "leaders" are so immature that none of them can take criticism. It will be a happy day when all of you are gone and we have real professional people on city council as our mayor and as a city manager. You are like a bunch of middle school kids or maybe preschool actually.
agree, Askc3 is a joke - still trying to get the city to respond via Askc3 why the spanish printing when US citizens and legal residents speak and read English. Why the commerce city police does nothing when drivers have no license, no insurance or provide fake identification. Why no valid identification is required for adults on school property?
There are only a few leaders, the rest are people that were in need of 800 dollars a month or whatever the mayor/council positions pay.
I for one have used ask C-3 a couple of times.
Not for questions, that is not what it is for, but to report problems that can be taken care of such as rocks from the median.
It is not a complaint venue to voice your dislikes about the spanish printing.
It is a spot for staff to take care of specific issues.
No, I had no repercussions from neighborhood services (you can place your situation anonymously).
Commerce City ED Director Brittany Morris Elected Chair of Metro Denver Economic Dev. Corporation’s Professionals Group:
http://ow.ly/4fB6U
Oh Boy...Brittany is the head of a Professional Group, that's great. Pro City please take it easy here because some of us know that this is pretty much the same as being the head of a toastmasters group. Let's all just hope that we taxpayers in Commerce City don't have to pay for Brittany to spend her time and efforts schmoozing and butt kissing with this group to advance her own career instead of working to bring true economic development to the City.
Congratulations to Brittany Morris (Commerce City)! It is great to see women who have the personality and leadership that Morris has to achieve great things like being elected to the Chair of Metro Denver ED Corp.
Side Note: March is Women's History Month.
Way to go Brittany!
Great News North Commerce City Residents. I was at 104th and Chambers (the dead center of the north Commerce City) and went north on Chambers to 120 then east to Buckley and then west to - Prairie Center Parkway where they had a Target with a grocery store, a Chili's a Kohls, a Home Depot a Wing Spot a Chic Filet and just about any other service you may need - here is the really good news it took me EIGHT MINUTES - PLEASE QUIT WHINING ABOUT NO SERVICES - I think 8 MINUTES is probably the average or below in the entire metro area for drive time to these type of services - some of you are just ridiculous.
Nice! BM is building her resume for when she gets the hell out of CC!
Just like Neelan did!
I strongly believe that credit is due to Commerce City mayor Paul Natale for his comments at the RTD board about the topic of the slight proposed tax hike for RTD projects.
If we do not act on this passing of the tax the RTD project will be pushed off til approximately 2042!
We need to push this to fruition.
It will help our area in many ways, not to point out the obvious, but it will help us economically!
Keep up the good work mayor Natale!
Great news for Morris! I wish I had connections to further my career!
What does she do for the city again?
Comment about AskC3!
You say AskC3 is "not a complaint venue to voice your dislikes, It is a spot for staff to take care of specific issues."
And we can't go to city council and voice our dislikes because we are told "Thank You, NOW GO SIT DOWN"
So where the hell are we suppose to go?
Please tell me there is more then just a blog to get our voice out! If, so that is very disappointing!
ps- interesting you had to say "No, I had no repercussions from neighborhood services"
I guess this has been a problem in the past?
In agreement with 8 mins being pretty close for groceries. Maybe I am just use to it by now (resident for 4 years and counting).
Just be careful on 104th, CCPD patrol it heavily for speeders.
SURE it is NOT that BAD to travel to Brighton for Goods and Services. The point is that our City COMMERCE CITY is Losing Tax Revenue to Brighton!
Plus eight minutes seems a little short to me. I will time it myself and comment later on how long it takes me.
hey Wes,
Maybe when your the new Mayor of Commerce City you can fix the citizen communication part of the city council meetings.
In the past you could have a 2 way conversation with the council at a city council meeting.
I suppose those days are long gone.
Metro Denver Economic Development Corporation’s Professionals Group?
Isn't that just code for business for Denver ONLY?
And when Denver is FULL, then scraps go to little surrounding cities?
Is Metro Denver Economic Development Corporation’s Professionals Group a real Group?
Or just one of those do nothing Groups like CCBPA?
For those of you who are SERIOUS about learning more about Metro Denver Economic Development Corporation’s Professionals Group, go to: http://www.metrodenver.org/
Some of you: Sarcasm is getting old.
Since we're giving our millions in sales tax revenue to Denver and Brighton maybe we should part ways with commerce city and annex into Denver or Brighton.
NO Wes, I was responding to someone ELSE who said that if you file a complaint with AskC3 they would come after you.
I was just mentioning that I had no such problem.
Stop reading so much into everything.
As others have suggested, but you ignore, run for council. Put your self where your mouth always is, full of direction and problem solving.
We all know you won't. That would take outing yourself and actually putting in effort!!
I for one am very tired of your complaining. Be part of the solution!
Hiroyuki,
I just finished reading your personal "take" on the situation in Japan.
The sadness of the reality there brings tears to my eyes. It also reminds me of what I was already sure of, we as people, where ever we live, want the best for our families.
In the midst of all of the pettiness (just as you spoke of) we deeply want to be able to live and enjoy life, with those we love.
We ALL have so much that we take for granted.
I pray for your country and you specifically, as special friends of Dusty and Yuki. May your lives be returned to a place of happiness.
God bless.
NICE Irish Theme Dusty!
Hiroyuki-
Your English is written very well. We in America are in watching the disaster in Japan closely, we see it on the news all day long.
I know that many of my colleagues are in complete awe of the Japanese. It is amazing to me that there is no real looting problem, and you are listening to the officials and taking this is stride.
GOD BLESS YOU!
Best way to sum up how the nation of Japan is dealing with their current situation is
"Keep Calm and Carry On"
We WILL think of you in Japan!
And we will enjoy life and not take it for granted.
God be with you and Hiroyuki's family
The images on the news are breaking my heart about Japan. Now hearing Hiroyuki's story I feel so sad.
God Bless you, your in my prayers
Stay safe Hiroyuki!
God Bless the Firefighters and all the workers dealing with the disaster.
Thinking of everyone in Japan, my prayers are with you all.
Love, thoughts & prayers to the country and people of Japan
Dusty Love the Irish Flag.
Are you Irish?
No.
I am Scottish...
Hope Japan is able to get nuclear situation under control!
God be with them.
God be with Hiroyuki and his daughter Yumi!!!!!!!!!!!!
no looting in japan. why is this shocking to us. why is the question of why we are surprised there is no looting in japan not more shocking for us.
I do feel sorry for the people of Japan. But I would like to talk about the collective bargaining the Commerce City employees have gotten themselves into.
This is such a bad idea for the city. I wonder if we will ever get to the point that Wisconsin went thru?
Unitas,
I do not think that Commerce City is even in the Ball Park as what happened in Wisconsin. I am not really sure why Commerce City employees decided to Unionize, but they did. so be it.
Commerce City Employees Unionized because of they were pushed into it by a council member? Or just a rumor?
cant unionize happy workers.
Good Morning Commentators,
I would like to know your thoughts about naming a park area after Patricia Schroeder...
dusyt,
who the hell is Patricia Schroeder?
why would we do that?
Where the hell is there a park area that is not named yet? And What city would this be in Brighton? Commerce City?
Democratic Patricia Schroeder?!
Patricia Schroeder was the first woman elected to Congress from Colorado, serving from 1973 to 1997.
Pat Schroeder Park??????????!!!!!!!!!
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
GN- Where the hell did Patricia Schroeder idea come from?
worried about unions? the solution is simple - hire a City manager who does not waste money on office remodels in a new building, shortly after arriving promote incompetent and inexperienced staff to high level positions and hire other inexperienced people for positions that he dreams up so that he doesn't actually have to do anything all day. Hire a City manager who has integrity and one that wouldn't cheat the tax payers out of 72,000 by LYING about his house sale in Arizona. Hire a City Manager who does not do and say discriminatory things that requires the City's legal staff to spend their time defending him and the City from Federal Lawsuits instead of actual City legal business. Hire a City Manager who would not pay a consultant thousands of dollars for a prototype ED Plan. No Flannery - No Union _ I think the staff (I am related to one by marriage and I live in the City)) is afraid that they are at the whims of this guy who obviously to the staff at all levels has no idea what he is doing - that is on the rare occasions the staff (those employees who actually do something of value)sees or hears from him or one of his many other inexperienced or incompetent members of the MASSIVE City Manager Office staff. The truth hurts, but it is still the truth.
Pat Schroeder once told Pentagon officials that if they were women, they would always be pregnant because they never said 'no'.
hey Gateway,
Can you ask why the city still prints in spanish. I hear a lot of excuses but nothing official from the city
Ah Pat Schroeder! That is a name I have not heard in a long time.
For you younger ones, Pat coined the term "Teflon President" of Ronald Reagan, she said, "He's just like a Teflon frying pan: Nothing sticks to him."
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