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366 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 366 of 366Sorry, Estelle, don't know where you got your info from. It is completely wrong.
Jeannette Lewis definately will go down in history-probably in the State of Colorado. Censured. It says it all.
Estelle, Sean Ford left the city with reserves in tact.
Strange story on the school bus incident.
Someone should tell Ellen Haug that her signs are not suppose to be strung all over in the right of ways.
Has the big bad bully attacked the 4 school board members yet? Or has see finely seen the truth about herself? Will Lewis see the light at the end of the tunnel and admit she has a problem? Will Adams 14 ever recover from this? God I hope so.
You’re giving the Big Bad Bully too much credit. She just an old, mean biddy that can’t treat anyone with respect unless they have some sort of clout in the community. The 3 board members (why count Klocker) stood up to her and refused to allow her to verbally abuse them and disrespect them any longer. Her followers would lead people to believe that she is a pillar of the community, but the truth is many people don’t trust her or feel that she will do anything on their behalf if they had concerns. I’m sure that not a one of the three board members that spoke out against her went home happy about what they did, but felt that it was the message they had to get out. If you ever watched a BOE mtg. on channel 8, you would see her reprimanding one of the three almost every meeting. We don’t know how she treated her fellow BOE members during executive sessions. I agree with what they had to do and I feel that it had reached the point where it wasn’t a minor infraction, but a constant violation of their character. She felt it was no more than a slap on the hand anyway. Good luck to the new board members that will be elected soon as well as the remaining members . Larry, you are a man with such integrity and conscience, I hope you are elected so the board can start anew with a group of people that can restructure the way things have been done in the past in effort to put our district back on the right track.
Estelle you are right on a number of counts.
For one Ford (or who ever gets the mayor position) will be one vote.
People forget that.
As for Fords last run, he did abuse the city credit card.
Being up for a censure as Lewis was as the president of d14 is one thing.
Have the vote go down as 4 to 1 is a complete other. the entire board agreed minus lewis (and even she had second thoughts, I bet.)
Point is, it is a big message.
I just don't know what it is as of yet.
Controversial Commerce City bus driver gets reassigned
If she did nothing wrong - that is what John Albright said - why was she reassigned.
If that was my daughter or son - I would have broke the bus door down!
Commerce City Business & Professional Association Candidate Forum is tonight at Commerce City Civic Center 7887 E. 60th Ave 6:30pm to 9:00pm
Jim Benson Said: “People right now only pay $60, $70 a year to Commerce City, about 3 mills people pay for property tax. That’s not even enough to pay for trash pickup, so people are getting a good deal. But it’s a traditional thing that the city provides trash pickup and it ensures that everybody knows when they’re trash pickup day is and they get their garbage out.” “And if we go to charging for it, some people are going to pay the bill and some aren’t, and if they don’t pay the bill, the trash isn’t going to be picked up. And then what happens to it? Does it wind up in their back yard or dumped out on the street someplace? It’s just not a workable thing.”
I say CC residents have more pride then that. We need to stop acting like a charity case and pay for our own trash service.
Enough of Gov. paying for us.
Lets grew up and just do this.
It is our city and most (99%) want it to be a nice community.
No More Gov. Freebies!
I can understand your point.
I disagree, but I understand. For me it is the promise made with TABOR and De-Brucing.
But more important.
What services should a city be doing for the Residents and want services should the city NOT be doing for the residents.
That is a good question if anyone has an answer to it.
Sevices city should provide?
Police and streets.
Let ED be handles by a chamber of commerce, of course we would need to create one (biggest down in commerce city).
Image? Put this on the people. You all want to act like fools and be in Denver media all the time. Go right ahead, But don't come back bitching when the image of Commerce City is what it is.
I think city services should include water and sewer.
That dinosaur of an idea of South Adams Water needs to be killed off.
ASAP.
New Council should make taking over the water district as a priority.
Take over so called "dinosaur".
I dont think so!
I am GLAD water and sewer are not controlled by commerce city.
They would only look at water revenues as a cash cow. They would take that money and spend it on consultants for more council policies that never get followed or trips to China for mysterious economic opportunities.
I say keep our water bills AWAY from commerce city. Keep them safe at SACWSD!
Rich CC voter
Make sure you tune into the forum tonight. CCBPA is sponsoring it.
Once again. The information is incorrect. Sean Ford had no abuse of credit card. All inuendo and stories.
no free trash no need for worthless commerce city. like it or not there's no real attachment to the dirty, smelly south commerce by it's north residents. look at how many voters give a hoot about the elections unless the south commerce city council members try to put nascar, truck stops, trailer parks, industrial parks in our clean upscale neighborhoods. this is 2 cities with one not having the tax base YET, but keep trying to convince yourselves this is one city and say it while pursuing votes...
Taking over the water district is needed, but will cost the city to acomplish.
Plus there are some who would fight it because they have gained much over the years by being involved in it.
It does cost us (cc users) money.
It is tough to make big changes with the old powerful in control.
Money
One can say that I say a lot about Sean Ford's previous administration for CC and if you personally have not lived here at that time you really have no way of knowing all of the back room deals that have occurred and the money that was spent above what the city proviso was for services rendered. When, certain council members arrived at a destination every thing was upgraded and money was no object. All in the name of travel expense or of a city doing business under Perry Vandeventer's management. All of the money and charges for this city went through Perry's signature. As a city, we never want to go back to those dark days. Why is Mayor Paul Natale so bitter about those times? Because, he was a council member and saw first hand the corruption going on from the inside out. The Mayor has a right to be bitter because people today are not listening to what were the true facts! And, I feel that the Mayor was not given full information on the current CM and huge mistakes were made when he was hired because of misplaced trust. This city trusted Flannery to tell the truth in a timely manner. We need to realize with all elections, there is an P&R spin being put out there by professionals that know what they are doing and are paid high salaries to do so. Not just people writing into a blog.
In 2006-2007, the admissions tax for Kronke was never approved for a vote for the taxpayers by city council and when it finally was put on the ballot, Kronke threatened to pull out of CC saying it would cost customers too much to pay for a ticket. A bottle of beer at a soccer game costs above $6 and an admissions tax would only cost 8.3% of a ticket. Which would cost Kronke nothing. This admissions tax vote was sponsored by Jim Benson to help pay for a Boys and Girls club for CC and only until that cost of 7 million was paid off, then it would go to the taxpayers. Hence, it was not the admissions tax that failed to pass but the fact that the Boys and Girls club was part of the question. People did not want to pay 7 million to build the Boys and Girls Club and another 2 million to support each year. I would like to see the admissions tax put back up for a vote.
If I was Lewis I would get a Tat "Censured"!
Street Cred.
I see a lot of Klocker signs are missing around town. Help sign thief on the louse? Oh wait. He pissed off Lewis. She must of told her last 5 friends to pull them out of there yards? I think that woman is sick? I think she needs some help?
Beautiful day at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge. The Rangers and Friends of the Front Range Refuges did a great job celebrating the Refuges of America. The picture perfect mountains were clear as a bell from Pike's Peak to Long's Peak. If you missed it, take the kids tomorrow.
Estelle,
I knew a few of the people that were on the citizen commission to review council travel and I am sure that is where you got your facts.
I know that they history of the city travel policy was as you have stated. That is why some of us are so very disappointed that no one else came forward to run for mayor.
I pray we do not return to the old ways. I hope all will watch those on council.
look who just moved into Commerce City!
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Troyer Insurance, 7582 Hwy 2 – insurance company - 303.534.4285
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AAA Trading Post, 16437 E 117th – sales of office furniture & commercial & industrial lighting - 303.519.5139
Alliance Auto Brokers, 4972 Monaco St – auto broker - 303.903.7717
ME Partners, 6769 E 50th Ave – sorting & packaging clothes for export to Africa - 303.789.0600
Rockustics, 4955 Newport St – sales of loudspeakers to sister company - 913.663.9693
Infamous Barber Shop, 7584 Hwy 2 – barber shop - 720.382.3148
All Demolitions Excavating, 7200 E 88th Ave – drop-off for clean dirt - 303.467.3366
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OPEN LETTER
This is an open letter to all the voters, residents and citizens of Adams #14 School District.
We are the supporters of President Mrs. Jeannette Lewis.
We are shocked and saddened over the recent actions of the Adams #14 School board. The so-called, self imposed censure of our School board President or any of the board members was unfair and disrespectful to the office of elected power.
To censure an individual for having a strong personality is unheard of.
The other school board members who took it upon themselves to engage in this act are full grown men. We find it very difficult to understand how Mrs. Lewis could intimidate anyone, much less these full grown men. Maybe what should be looked at it is the charterer of the other 4. Are they so sensitive that they are not able to handle one person who maybe outspoken?
Mrs. Lewis has gone above and beyond her duty when it came to the proposed medical waste facility in the district’s boundaries. She truly has the entire district’s good at her heart at all times.
Because of these recent events,
It is our opinion that none of the incumbents be re-elected for 2011. It is our opinion that a re-call should be looked at for the remaining board members. It is our opinion that the board should reverse the decision and clear it from the public record. Lastly, it is our opinion that an apology should be issued to Mrs. Lewis by all four of the board members who vote on this. This apology should be in public and aired on channel 8 in Commerce City.
ps- Those of you thinking the Mrs. Lewis, know this. Like a tea bag, the longer in and hotter the water is the stronger she will get.
Join us, NO on KLOCKER NO on QUINTANA!
I just completed my mail-in ballot and did not vote for any of the Adams 14 incumbents. I like Klocker, but throwing Lewis under the bus a month before she leaves the board is silly. Vashaw said that she goes after board members with a vengeance, but this censure is the most vengeful thing anyone could do. We need to elect 3 new board members and then recall the other 2 ASAP. Someone posted a video from June 2009 and said this is a reason for the censure. Two years ago? Grow up!
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Lewis comparing herself to a tea bag. For tea to be good, you just pour the hot water (for white and green tea, not ever boiling) over the tea or steep it for just a couple of minutes. The hotter the water, the longer it steeps, the more it is bitter and not drinkable.
To supporters of Lewis:
She has you so afraid that you don't put your name. I don't think you support her. But then again she may have made you put this on here with her strong personality(bullying). Her STRONG PERSONALITY has bullied even the previous board, that's a strong personality of (bullying). By the way it's not allowed in the schools, the kids can't get away with it. Why should Mrs. Lewis get away with it. This goes all the way back to John Lange, and previous B.O.E. members DOES SHE OWE THEM AN APOLOGY? Yes she sure does, will she ever do it ? NO she won't. Further more for her to treat Bill Klocker the way she has is an out right shame. He stood by her side no matter what she has done. Just maybe he saw the light. You keep saying our opinion Not to brave. How quick you are to turn on Bill. The voters will elect whom they want in. Let the voters speak. Lewis got caught with her pants down now she must reap what she sews. that is not even harsh enough for her.
STOP LETTING LEWIS BULLY YOU INTO HER WAY OF THINKING.
I WON'T SIGN MY NAME EITHER CAUS E I DON'T SUPPORT.
Flannery has accepted the position of Chief Executive Officer/General Manager of the Highlands Ranch Community Association.
Have to think this is a pay cut?
Thanks Flannery and Neelan.
Thanks for leaving Commerce City high and dry.
I gather all the talk about flanery looking for another job this entire time was true.
What a piece of work.
So, now we are down to 2 city managers.
One is qualified to be the next one.
Guess which one.
Ask around.
See if the rest of Commerce City staff is happy or sad about jerry leaving?
Makes you Curious?
File: JICDE
Bullying Prevention and Education
The Board of Education supports a secure school climate, conducive to teaching and learning that is free from threat, harassment and any type of bullying behavior. The purpose of this policy is to promote consistency of approach and to help create a climate in which all types of bullying are regarded as unacceptable.
Bullying is the use of coercion to obtain control over another person or to be habitually cruel to another person. Bullying can occur through written, verbal or electronically transmitted expression or by means of a physical act or gesture. Bullying is prohibited on district property, at district or school-sanctioned activities and events, when students are being transported in any vehicle dispatched by the district or one of its schools, or off school property when such conduct has a nexus to school or any district curricular or non-curricular activity or event.
A student who engages in any act of bullying is subject to appropriate disciplinary action including but not limited to suspension, expulsion and/or referral to law enforcement authorities. The severity and pattern, if any, of the bullying behavior shall be taken into consideration when disciplinary decisions are made.
The Superintendent shall develop a comprehensive program to address bullying at all school levels. The program shall be aimed toward accomplishing the following goals:
1. To send a clear message to students, staff, parents and community members that bullying will not be tolerated.
2. To train staff and students in taking pro-active steps to prevent bullying from occurring.
3. To implement procedures for immediate intervention, investigation, and confrontation of students engaged in bullying behavior.
4. To initiate efforts to change the behavior of students engaged in bullying behaviors through re-education on acceptable behavior, discussions, counseling, and appropriate negative consequences.
5. To foster a productive partnership with parents and community members in order to help maintain a bully-free environment.
6. To support victims of bullying by means of individual and peer counseling.
7. To help develop peer support networks, social skills and confidence for all students.
8. To recognize and praise positive, supportive behaviors of students toward one another on a regular basis.
LEGAL REFS.: C.R.S. 22-32-109.1 (2)(a)(X) (policy required as part of safe schools plan)
CROSS REFS.: JICDA, Code of Conduct
JICDD*, Violent and Aggressive Behavior
JICJ, Student Use of Electronic Communication Devices
JK, Student Discipline
Revised: 9/18/01, 4/22/08
ACSD 14, Colorado
C.R.S Safe schools, 22-32-109.1 Bully Police USA
C.R.S 22-1-126. Safe-2-tell electronic hotline and program.
As described in section 16-15.8-103, C.R.S., there is established a safe-2-tell electronic hotline with the primary purpose of providing students, teachers, other school employees, and the community with the means to relay information anonymously concerning dangerous, violent, or criminal activities to appropriate law enforcement or public safety agencies through a single anonymous electronic hotline.
Will Highlands Ranch Community Association give Jerry a house?
What about highest car allowance in the state?
Looks like Jerry was looking for this position.
http://www.hrcaonline.org/Community/CommunityNews/ArticleDetail/tabid/490/ArticleId/69/HRCA-seeks-new-General-Manager-and-CEO.aspx
Gary Debus was the Manager at Highlands Ranch Community Association for something like 20 years.
I worked with him on some events for the Wildlife Experience.
Jerry will have some big shoes to fill.
Saw Jerry leaving a mile away.
Nannette did the same thing to us going to Lakewood.
What does CC have to do to keep staff here?
Too bad Nannette left, I think she would have made a good city manager in CC.
Looks like we will have to settle for McBroom.
Why is McBroom the replacement?
Why not Acre or Clemmins?
Despite what you all think,
this is a free country and anyone can search and get a job no matter where.
Is it right? That is your opinion.
But we can not keep him here.
I wish him good luck in Highlands Ranch.
I hope the Highlands Ranch Community Association likes consultants!!!!!!!!!
So is McBroom the next in line?
what happens to our 72K that was given to a loss on a house in AZ that was in fact a gain?
My god, No more Natalie, No more Lewis, No more Flanry.
What are we going to do?
Commerce City will be just fine.
It is not like Perry where we had a bunch of loose ends.
Nothing was really happening, so this transition will be very easy.
Can't wait to hear Commerce City Council praise Jerry for all of his WONDERFUL work. I can hear it now, Jerry has brought s to a new level, Jerry is a blessing. We are blessed to have the time we did with this outstanding man.
Watch, you will see.
flannery moves on?
do you blame him?
Bullying in Adams 14 is finally going to stop! The BOE started at the top and now it has to stop at all levels of Adams 14. Dr. Sue Chandler, Administrators and Principals need to stop, cease and discest!! The AP's need to follow. We have some teachers that follow the lead too. Then we can TEACH the students that this type of behavior will not be tolerated in Adams 14 any longer. We need to send a clear message to students, staff, parents, The BOE, and community members that bullying will not be tolerated any longer in Adams 14!!!!!! As per BOE POLICY!!!!!!!! The kids say the bulling in school is mostly verbal just like Lewis. The teachers say it's a lot of bully talk then they are asked to resign. The students, the parents and the whole community see this. We need a new start in Adams 14. Our children need a better education without bullying.
Thank you BOE. Thanks Adrian, Larry, Robert and even Bill. You guys ROCK.
Fact is Commerce City is so top heavy with staff. The city will continue to function with no problem.
MacBroom as manager with Acres as an assist will be just fine.
City will not even skip a beat.
Council should not give them any pay raise as they did for clemmins.
They can use the down economy if they want.
Commerce City has a problem with treating their City Managers as a friend.
The goodbyes on Oct. 24th should be a good show of this.
Two cents from someone in the know -Clemmens would be a great interim City Manager. he has almost 40 years of experience working for this City, has been the interim City Manager several times and is well respected by the staff, the community and other organizations close to the City. He will create stability during a transition. McBroom should be considered as a candidate for the replacement City Manager. Tom Acre, to my knowledge hearing from many who have worked with him or work for the City is that he is unqualified for and incompetent in his current job and is sadly the laughing stock of the City. The City Council should consider talking to a variety of top level staff like the Department Directors and Managers about the interim situation and who they believe is qualified and capable of "holding down the fort"until a new Manager is hired.
What a bunch of rude, nasty people. I hope and pray that most are the same few using multiple names.
I would hate to think we have that many mean, rude, nasty, hateful people.
Flannery was not perfect, but my God you ALL have ugly parts in your lives, if nothing else your attitude.
You are the ones who need to look in the mirror.
Good luck Flannery, it is easy to see why you decided to leave.
I think it would be a grand idea to ask the staff if they are sorry to see Flanery go - if I had to bet on it I would say it is a great big fat NO! Hopefully we can mange with only two Managers left - why don't they just pay Flannery to take his worthless lap dog Acres with him to the Ranch and give the job to one of two qualified and capable staff like Clemmens or MacBroom. On the bright side if Flannery and Acres were gone - you might be able to get a t-time at Buff Run!
TO In the know,archer, DK keys, Sam, and a number of Anonymous'.
I can see you sitting in your dungeon cackeling. You got what you want. I cannot wait to see who you turn your venom on now.
did mayor PN Write letter of recommendation to jerry's new job?
Say what you will. Mr. Flannery has brought us out into the light. We are finally well respected in the metro area.
We have some really god plans in place.
Not to mention the FIRST economic plan.
I for one am sad to see Mr. Flannery go.
We need to be thanking for all he has done for us.
In the Plan
I think this was Flannery's plan all along to eventually get out of this position. However, he set himself up financially for thousands of dollars on CC money and took a trip to Germany. He plucked us clean. And let's not forget those employees that had to sue the city because of on the job treatment. They are the forgotten ones in all of this because they lost jobs/careers that they liked doing. I have no sympathy for a man who always put himelf and his welfare before our entire city. I feel he set CC up for his departure with two deputy managers. In fact, I don't think he ever really ran the city. Flannery's skill was as a team builder. Brian McBroom is truly a good man and he will do everything in his power to build us up. I hope he stays with us for years to come. We really are in good hands and I don't think we will miss a beat.
$72,000 relocation for Flanery to come to Commerce City.
Here only 4 years
That is only $18,000 a year.
I say that is a rip off.
Can we try and charge highlands ranch for this?
what about the lawsuit with CM?
Whos next to leave? Our Ed Director?
We will miss you Jerry. Thanks for everything.
Twitter from Council Person-Retweet
Perlmutter says "bad idea" to put Commerce City in 1st CD with Denver. Says "tension" exists between suburbs and Denver.
What are the "tensions"?
Cant wait til monday when we can hear the council profess their undying love to CM.
Have to say,
With Adams 14 a big mess, Lewis censure, Commerce City candidates in news for DUI and unreal backgrounds, Crazy Bus Driver. Mayors with axe to grind.
Commerce City really needs to do a 180.
We are at the bottom of the barrel.
In a way the new people coming in are pretty lucky.
There is no where to go but up.
We all need to look at this as a fresh start.
I agree with comment that not much was going on anyhow.
This should be a very easy transition.
Irene. i hope you are right about the "new people". Let's not go back and recycle an old problem
Question of the day
What does:
Bud Thompson
The temple
Marijuana business
The Gateway News
Marty Flaum
Have in common?
Love the Election Edition of the Gateway! Mayor Pro Tem Snyder's ad is really great! I wish her all the best in her campaign to be our next State House Representative.
She will take her experience and do a great job!
Flannery finished what was started under VanDeventer. The ED strategic plan, 2 year budgets, increasing the reserves, the complete overhaul of the municipal code and land use code were all started under Perry VanDeventer. Flannery took all the credit, plus $72000at a minumum, left lower morale and higher turnover, plus one hand picked deputy city manger who is not respected because he does not follow through.
As CM Flannery departs we need a strong council to brace itself against deals already in progress should Sean Ford become Mayor. People like Jim Benson who already knows what is happening, we can't afford to let others take the two years needed to catch up. It would seem reasonable that Brian McBoom would become CM but with Ford in office we could get another Perry Vandeventer. Why can't we get a strong council elected who will finally think of the taxpayers and not about their own political careers?
perfect time for the north to separate from stinky city
I guest the city manager grew tired of the uneducated beer drinking south commerce city populace. Shea knows talent and will benefit form this recommendation. south commerce city will never be more than it is and south politicians will NOT be accepted by the residents of the northern enclave. Bottom line, I hope this opens the eyes of the home owners in the north to get involved and seek separation from commerce city. Don't wait until the mayor and his former mayor protem tries to bring in nascar,trailer parks and truck stops
GN
Where can we find a copy of the Election Issue here in the south?
Ones I can think of at the moment,
Try one of these locations...
JK
ElJardin
Mugsy's
City Hall
Library
D#14
88 Drive In
Parkway Liquor
King Soopers
McDonalds
7-11
Water Dept
Derby Resource Center
Hi Lo
Subway
Laundry Mat by JK Cafe
Jerry Flannery was not perfect, but pretty darn good
by a Commerce City Insider
Mr. Flannery created and executed policies and procedures that were never implemented in the history of this city. A level of professionalism that again has never been seen before in Commerce City ever.
Mr. Flanney was able to attract and bring us some of the best talent in the entire state. Just one example is the Chief of Police Mr. Baca.
We are completely setup to move this city effortlessly and in a positive direction.
Despite the efforts of some to criticize the current organizational chart. I can tell you for a fact that it is setup in a way that ensures accountability and efficiency.
I can only hope that whoever takes the city over next will keep a lot if not all the practices intact.
At the end of the day, The residents and council got their monies worth.
Commerce City Insider,
I like what you wrote.
Mr. Flannery did lack in the financial area, but at the end learned very quickly and did have a great sense of professionalism. Most important he was able to get things done.
Not as easy as it sounds in a down economy and many many many challenges with the council.
I also feel like we are at a new level.
Let's all hope that the City Council ask a few questions of the other staff and other agencies before they promote one of the Deputies. Flannery did not do this and it has been a disaster - McBroom is well respected and has credibility with the staff and the comunity - the same cannot be said for the other deputy. I have been told that prior to being promoted he had never supervised one person in the City or anything else for that matter - he was just Natale's buddy and still is.
WOW nice words "pro city" whats next Jerry Flanery holiday Day?
CC insider obviously is an employee afraid of losing their job - they are probably part of the overkill and massive "organizational chart" or City Manager's Office. It is time for this City to be responsible to us taxpayers and eliminate all the excessive staff in the Manager's Office. I say they should start with Pro City 3.0 and CC insider - who obviously are trying to save their jobs.
I really think Mr. Flannery was a diamond in the rough. Perfect? Hell no, BUT very good for Commerce City.
We are in a much better place then we were just 5 years ago.
I think if I had the choice of Commerce City or Highlands Ranch I would also leave.
I can say this because I am a resident of Commerce City, not some outsiders who thinks they know us.
We have come a long ways, but folks, we have a long ways to go.
If you could hear some of the stories about where we were 10-15 years ago you would be shocked.
Lets not go backwards, not go back to our old ways.
Lets hope the new council is able to find a leader that will bring us to even a better place then where Mr. Flannery has brought us.
Jerry, Good Luck in your new life and thanks for bring us to a new level.
Any word on who will be the next CM interim.
Why is everyone assuming it will be one of the deputy CM?
Why is everyone assuming it will be McBroom?
Why not Arce?
Has it already been decided?
Told by someone who really knows things that Adams County so far is having a LOW election turnout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know there is time left, but you will forget if you don't mail it soon, I know because it happened to me in the past!
Get those ballots in the mail and VOTE YES on 3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous who asked why not Acres - the answer is he is not qualified for his current job and has been a poor performing employee for many years - he is Natale's buddy and nothing more - anyone who doubts this - I invite you to go ask ANY City employee above dog catcher - I worked with the City a few years ago and you are just going to have to trust me.
really wish South Adams Water District would have moved into the Derby area. Really do not like the building in the middle of the neighborhood.
Oh well, rumor is commerce city will be taking this over soon anyhow.
Wonder if any of the CC employees asked Jerry to take them with him?
>Please don't leave me here! Take me to the ranch with you!
Because of the policies put in place by CM Flannery, Commerce City was able to weather the economic storm very well.
Where many others had to layoff employees or do furloughs, Commerce City has not.
We have great reserves and are in pretty good financially.
These are the facts people.
I am tired of everyone using Commerce City as a stepping stone.
Why can't we get good staff to stay here?
P.S. Estelle, Benson is a Ford supporter!
All in favor of having Paul Natale to be the next CM say AYE!
He knows the city and all of its issues.
A Republican Mayor and a Republican CM.
It will be a glorious time for CC!
I thought Commerce City politics were bad. At least we are not Thornton
http://youtu.be/8D_rgTva3IU
Response to comment:
"I hope this opens the eyes of the home owners in the north to get involved and seek separation from commerce city. Don't wait until the mayor and his former mayor protem tries to bring in nascar,trailer parks and truck stops"
If any council member can bring NASCAR to Commerce City with the 9 mile Benson Rule in place, I say that will the best day ever.
Make no mistake the North was Not against NASCAR, it was against the location being a rocks throw away from residential.
I would vote for anyone who can bring NASCAR to Commerce City with the 9 mile Benson Rule being followed.
Dear GOP in CC,
I know now that you do not have a grasp on the relationships inside the REPUBLICAN party.
Natale and Ford will not be very good in the same room working out the city's business as a mayor/cm.
Commerce City Residents:
Take out the trash for free on Saturday, Oct. 22 from 7 a.m.-3 p.m.
Proof of city residency required (Colo. driver's license/tax statement)
Must wear reflective safety vest while unloading - bring your own or purchase for $1
No charge for trash hauled in cars, pickup trucks or pickup - size trailers (5 cubic yards)
Appliances with refrigerants (air conditioners, refrigerators, etc.) MUST have certification of chlorofluorocarbon removal.
NON-ACCEPTABLE ITEMS
Tires
Car batteries
Used oil
Hazardous materials/liquid
For additional information, call 303-371-2887. The landfill is located on 8480 Tower Road.
Paul Natale couldn't manage a church bake sale. When will you realize the mayor and council do not run the City - why can't you get that - read a book on it or something - if you can read.
Re:
Archer said...
Being up for a censure as Lewis was as the president of d14 is one thing.
Have the vote go down as 4 to 1 is a complete other. the entire board agreed minus lewis (and even she had second thoughts, I bet.)
Point is, it is a big message.
I just don't know what it is as of yet.
Thursday, October 13, 2011
I think I know what the massage is Archer.
I think the rest of Adams 14 will see they need to listen to the parents, kids and the majority of the BOE and start moving this district forward. To fix the problems before they hit the news. To educate our children like they are suppose to. It's there JOB. Do your dam job or go away.
I think the residents of CC need to start looking at things for themselves. Flannery is leaving to go work for Shea Homes. The same Shea Homes that CC give $3million to for a King Suppers to be built in the North. Does anybody find that strange?
Now about the house that was bought by CC for Flannery, if he paid the city back where did the money go? What fund is it in? Did he even pay it back? Does the Gateway even know where the money is?
Oh and the Highlands Ranch Community Association is a non-profit that you can find information about online. If I read the information correct he will be getting a pay raise.
I know Sean Ford well. He was a good mayor and he will do even better this time around. My picks are Steve Douglas, Dr. Sumner and Rick Teter. Rick Teter knows more about Ward 4 than any person. Dist. 14, supporting Larry Quintana and Angel Anderson.
Please vote intelligently. Pull the newspaper articles from 2003 until 2007 regarding the mayor and his henchman. Is this where we want to go back to?
Good Luck to Mr. Flannery.
He was a very strong administrator and will be great down in Highlands Ranch.
The answer:
Let's make a deal with Sean Ford.
I say CC use the same head hunter firm to get us a new manager.
Commerce City Deputy City Manager Brian McBroom appointed by council to serve as Interim City Manager after Flannery's departure in December.
Acre should have been appointed the next up! Has more experience with the city!
Good to know there is 1 Tom supporter in the city. It isn't me!
I would like to hear more about these rumors the council of Commerce City was talking about last night.
Dusty,
Can you post here the link to your story on lewis censured?
Thanks
For Ollie,
Here is the link.
http://tinyurl.com/3oxcep9
Me too. I would like to know about rumors that council was talking about last night.
Crazy that the new High School has to be shut down for two days in a row due to the sewer smell. What's up with this????
GO Rapids!
Is anyone looking at where Commerce City candidates are getting their money? Who will they be owing favors to.
is that common in Commerce City?
Is that why David Foster gets whatever like the mile high flea market annexation?
does commerce city plow all the streets or just some of them. they never go in front go down my block.
A big Thank You to City Manager Flannery for your time here in Commerce City
Some key mile stones,
King Soopers
URA bought the old dog track
Internet Customer Service Management System
Implemented Fiscal Policies
CCPD station in North
Added Open Space and Parks
Most Important No employee layoffs and NO furloughs!
I think it is great that Commerce City is starting this Quality Community Initiative.
But if we learned anything, it sounds like again a bunch of talk.
The markets will dictate when things will happen.
I am still curious about how Victory Crossings, Dog Track (prior to city buying it), Old ACHS site, Derby (lets be honest, not really a success), and of course the north (some successes but long from where is should be) are still not taking off?
What are we doing wrong?
Answer is nothing. The Markets will rebound and then things will start happening.
But I guess it is good to sit around and talk about it, I guess.
I attended the Jane Jefferson Dinner last week, and met Mayor Pro Tem Tracey Snyder for the first time. As I talked with her, I understood what everyone is saying about how much she really cares about the people of Commerce City. I found her knowledgeable, sincere, and above all, able to hold her own in the boys club that is often politics. We need more women at the State, and I think Tracey would be a fine addition. I would encourage all of you to vote and support Tracey!
the opening for the RTD rep in Adco should be filled by one of these guys coming off Commerce City Council.
Maybe even the mayor!
I just checked out the donation record of the candidates.
Seems many have the same supporters, appears as if they are from the "church" that needed water.
Guess we'll see if they get the deal that they were "seeking?".
Wonder if they will have to pony up for the northern GID like the rest of us. That would help to pay it off early.
I know "I" for one will be watching to see who votes to help these "supporters" get around the rules.
Everyone knows that Tom should have gotten the city manager interim position.
I thought flannery did not leave until Dec.
Why is the current council picking a interim?
New council will be seated before deadline, right?
GN,
what happened to the comment about vote for temp. city manager?
Concerns were expressed, so it was removed for the greater good.
Commerce City reserves will be $12.6 million. Almost a half of a million dollars more.
We are heading in the right direction.
I think the reserves in CC is defined by the percent of money budgeted to be spent?
What was the most Commerce City ever had in reserves?
$17M?
tabor reserves in commerce city will be more, that is all that matters.
watch how people define "reserves" this might have changed from city manager to city manager.
Not too long Commerce City Council was talking about cutting $2 Million for trash. It was a choice of trash service or Cap. Projects?
What happened? Now we have extra money for reserves?
Well, Whatever. Good for Commerce City!
Be aware of ANY candidates making claims of financials of ANY gov.
They are most likely not true!
Honestly,
I know this is a touchy subject, but Miz Cordero would have made a great City manager in Commerce City.
Budget Talk in Commerce City, I could not be more confused if I tried.
mayorpaulcc paul natale
We had a 17 million dollar surplus four years ago.It is now $22million during the worst financial times in decades.Let's get it right!
mayorpaulcc paul natale
WOW. did I ever make a mistake. Not the first, certainly not the last. Wrote dollars instead of percent for surplus. 40 lashes for me
hope Miz will go for the City Manager position in CC!
Great Guy, smart and will take us to new heights.
Wes,
NOTHING to be confused about.
We have an increase in our reserves.
Bottomline,
WE ARE DOING GOOD. Especially in these times.
That is it!
Since the public vote for the interim city manager,was 100% in favor of Mcbroom, the other info should never have been released. Info about personel is not public info when done in a executive session.
The real problem, is those sessions, are suppose to kept private.
NO ONE should have let that info out. Just shows that we have people on council who don't mind breaking the rules. Sad, sad, sad.
PLEASE let us hire a City manager that actually has some good City administrative experience. I am sad to say that Tom Acre did not have any at all when he was promoted and has been a disaster since. Miz Cordero is a nice guy but has even less municipal administrative experience than Acre. It is in City Council's best interest not to play favorites because they like someone or they are "nice" hire a City Manager as the next City Manager.
why is no one voting?
"Since the public vote for the interim city manager,was 100% in favor of Mcbroom"
I think ALL votes are suppose to be public? Am I wrong?
Colorado Office of Economic Development is hiring 18 people next week.
Wonder if any of them will be from Commerce City?
I don't know if the rumor I've heard, is the "ONE", but here it is.
I heard that one mayoral candidate and a few of his friends currently on council (as well as some that are running) have already decided that M. Flaum is to be the new city manager.
I'm disappointed, having heard Flaums history.
Guess we'll see.
Denver POST: Commerce City Mayor Paul Natale reflects on time in office...
http://t.co/aC2HuDBi
Say what you want about Natale. He did do a good job. We are doing pretty damn well (ALL THINGS CONSIDERING)
Thanks Mayor for keeping us a float during what is most likely the hardest time in American history since the depression.
GOOOOOOOOOOO RAPIDS!
Another CUP run!
DEFEND THE CUP!
I heard different rumor,
I think McBroom will be the next City Manager.
Whoever it is, No HOUSE, no RELOCATION FEES. Reduce the car allowance. Make it comparable to cities around us.
No more then $350
Relocation Fee?! Not Again
Commerce City spent a breakdown of $18K a year for Flannery.
With that fact known, Commerce City Council would be smart to get some local talent.
Colorado is one of the smartest states in the Union. No reason why we can't find some local guy here. Someone who is NOT a lobbyist and wants to be here in Colorado that shows it by already being here.
Post Article on Mayor's reflection I felt was a little light and quick.
I think there must be more "Milestones" then those reported.
Natale is not a bad guy, he is just surrounded by back stabbing idiots.
We are still in the game. Lots of Money in the reserves. Free Trash Service still, lower crime, first ever Economic Development Plan in History, Derby Efforts (not perfect, but in a much better place)! And most importantly the FIRST city wide curb side recycling program (now if people would just USE IT).
funny how at the end everyone becomes a saint.
One more time! Natale did not run the City. The mayor and the Council act on recommendations of the staff - not the City Manager who was rarely seen at City hall but real staff. The Mayor does not run the City - sorry!
dkeys, funnier yet how you can sit on the side lines and complain!!
Let's see you do the same when the next council gets sitted, your true colors will show then!!
I can't wait to see what happens with the group trying to get the city's water without going thru the right channels and paying all that would be due.
Seeing Bensons donation list I now understand why he was pushing this so hard!
If the deal goes, guess it will be the next scandal for the Post in Adams County.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/10/27/taxpayer-funded-golf-tournament-cancelled/
I prefer this expense to the $72000 that Flannery took the city for.
Flannery took a contract.....that is the fact. Bad contract yes, but a contract he did not write.
Wanna complain see who wrote it and who voted for it.
p.s. dont fool yourselves, Benson and Tetter approved all but the taxes portion.
CBS did great report. How much did Commerce City spend?
Looks like there is a second part.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/10/27/taxpayer-funded-golf-tournament-cancelled/
Government Getaways,
How much does Commerce City spend on these trips?
I personally like Sumner for Ward 4.
No more lawyers on the council!
I dont think I could ever be a council member because I dont know how to play golf.
My son was talking to me today about the Boys and Girls Club. He enjoys it alot at Kearney. I remember Tracey Snyder saying for years that she wanted to help bring one to town. And she was on the Stakeholders Group for a long time. Although she was out of town for the announcement of where the new Club would be located, those of this in the know are aware that Tracey, and NOT Dominck should have been in that picture! Dominick just got here. She has been here all along. So THANK YOU to Tracey for all your hard work!
mayorpaulcc: Wow! 3 great articles in the CC Sentinel. It is terrific having a real paper publishing positive articles.Let's start advertising with them
Which one? This one?
http://www.commercecitysentinel.com/content/council-under-fire-deals-city-manager
or maybe this one?
http://www.commercecitysentinel.com/content/city-manager-housing-deal-dispute-divides-council
Too bad Commerce City Council bent over backwards for Jerry.
Now we all know he was only using us as a stepping stone.
Too Bad.
Again, explain to me why we need to protect him from the down housing market?
If new council does this with new City Manager, I will be on it just like this one.
Absolutely Careless with the taxpayers money.
No other way to look at it.
Wes and dkeys, time to move on.
I too, will be glad to see a newspaper that will cover ALL kinds of coverage, not JUST slamming and smearing the city staff, & council.
I personally have no issue seeing the bad, just like to see the good too (yes I know....YOU see no good).
I have seen both good and bad articles, in the Post and have no issue with total coverage of our city.
You two both always see the glass half full (or nearly empty).
Why not physically get involved, or can't you take it, only dish it out!
recycling location Highway 2 in Commerce City.
"Over an 11-week period, the city’s public works department removed more than 40 tons of trash and debris unrelated to recycling,” said Brian McBroom, deputy city manager for external services. “From hypodermic needles, carpets, furniture and even scrap metal, it’s clear the facility is no longer meeting its original intent.”
Glad, so Glad they shut this down.
is dkeys serious? you people did nothing but harass the man because your city council gave him such a great deal. He din absolutely nothing illegal just guilty of receiving one hell of a good deal. you people refuse to see the truth about cc. it's the laughing stock of the Denver metro area. Colorado citizens see this as a dumping ground for illegals and source of polluting the state with it's refineries, tractor trailers and industrial waste. I can only imagine how difficult it is to get businesses other than trucking and industrial to buy what we're selling.
Reality check: New home builders in the north do all they can to disassociate with cc in sales and advertising to get people to buy homes. How many people say "I live in the north range or what ever sub division. They don't say cc, to embarrassing. Just watch what happens when a new zip code is created.
I dont think it is fair to say the mayor was or is surrounded by backstabbing idiots.
I do believe that we have a council of strong personalities and that some times causes conflicts.
All the council have the best interest of the city at heat.
Ollie,
Do you know how many times Natale has attempted to be recalled?
So many times I forgot the count.
Everytime was for bogus reasons.
Ollie,
Do you know how many times Natale has attempted to be recalled?
So many times I forgot the count.
Everytime was for bogus reasons.
Re: recycling location Highway 2 in Commerce City.
"Over an 11-week period, the city’s public works department removed more than 40 tons of trash and debris unrelated to recycling,” said Brian McBroom, deputy city manager for external services. “From hypodermic needles, carpets, furniture and even scrap metal, it’s clear the facility is no longer meeting its original intent.”
Glad, so Glad they shut this down?
Is this the way our new poster child will run the city?
Just shut things down?
Why not be pro active? It's a $1000 fine for littering right?
Why not have the city write 100 tickets. Put up surveilance camaras and hand out more tickets? You might make a profit? People might tell other people don't litter in Commerce City? That might just help CC?
Commerce City voter: Active=11,646 Inactive=9,468
That tells me a lot of people don't care and don't really want to care.
No excuse!
Tells me a lot!
look at the difference between CC ward1 and ward2.
Seems unfair. Why such a drastic difference?
is that maybe why we have so many candidates in ward 2?
real eye opener
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