Commerce City General Issues June 2009

Another month has passed and once again it has been a very interesting education of your thoughts and concerns. Thank you to all that have posted and we look forward to hearing more of your comments and concerns.

If you are confused about how to post on the blog or feel more comfortable e-mailing me your comments and concerns, please do so and we will post it for you.

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Dustin McIntyre, Gateway News and gatewaynews.org

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Jack said...

First time I have been back here in a while. I Love the new look. Video of K9 is great, you wont find me running from Cario anytime soon!
Jack

John L. said...

GOOD STUFF GATEWAY! Who knew a city council meeting would be such GREAT entertainment!

keep up the good work!

John L.

Thinking Out Loud said...

If city wants a store in the northern range.

Take that 80K and have contest to the general public, whoever can get a store in the north gets 80K cash on the spot.

Bang! you will have a store in a NY minute!

Just a Thought

King of Olive Street said...

What is Benson looking for? Why not just ask the mayor for information, he has been transparent so far.

King of Olive Street

(Love the videos)

Anonymous said...

I guess council couldn't go fishing in vail (cml) so they are pulling paul's emails to fish there

Anonymous said...

What's the deal with the dog park?don’t seem like a good use of our taxes. went there for a week everyday day to socialize with people living in my city. In that week very few people if any showed up to use it. people didn't pick up after their dogs. gravel very hard to walk on. one of the worst i've been to. for those new to the area i found 2 others that are nicer. one near 104th & colorado the other is on bromley lane just south of the justice center in brighton. new to colorado should i be concerned? did the current city council make the decision to put the dog park in that location with deep gravel?

Anonymous said...

You need to make friends with ccspeaks, they also see things from the negative.
I have been to the dog park and found it great. Very convienent and much better than some of the others I've used, that are weedy or just dirt. I find the gravel a good middle ground for use. Little mantainence, therefore wise use of our taxes.
As far as others not cleaning up their dogs messes. I suppose that is the fault of the city also??
Personally I haven't been there, lately too much rain, lightening and tornados.
Yes....you should be concerned, you are traveling down the road of "what our government should do for us"...not "what can we do for others".
President Kennedy said.."think not what your county can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
I appreciate what our city has worked so hard to improve for us,
THINK about it!

Anonymous said...

why on earth would council person lewis be sent to vail on our dime, our tax dollars, to 'PARTY ALL NIGHT", when he is off of council, thank God, in about twenty weeks, what a waste, guess it runs in the Lewis family, what a great day in Commerce City when the Lewises are off council and off school board!

Anonymous said...

jim benson is OUT OF CONTROL!

he will never change.

Ryland, Commerce City said...

It is my opinion that the City of Commerce City should do everything in their power to keep the golf course up and going.

It is a great thing for the city and it will pay off in the long run.

Ryland, Commerce City

Curious in Reunion said...

did orval say "wood" pipes?

just wondering.

ccSpeaks said...

Benson Issue, why copies, dont need hard copies, (why so much time, electonic, should take 30 min, zip it up on a disk as PDF and give it to him)

ccSpeaks

Fred A. said...

Jim sounds just like the recall committee. Mayor did something wrong, but what is it?

Recall Benson? I thought we were not suppose to have personal attacks in public any more?

Fred A. fred303@mail.com

resident in Ward 2 said...

City will have to give Jim what he wants or Jim will unleash law dogs.

But hey, whats another 4 grand, its just money, right?

Gina, Commerce City said...

City is a tight place on this one, if Jim really got the okay from city clerks office as "no payment" I don't see how the city can then change the rules on the fly.

I am not saying Jim is right, it is just getting frustrating.

Charlie, CC said...

I AM IN COMPLETE DISAGREEMENT WITH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING THE WAY OF A RECALL OF MR. JIM BENSON!!!!!!

We do NOT, do NOT need another recall attempt of anykind! Have we not learned anything!!!!!! Jim and Coucil are just going to have to get along one way or another.

Charlie, CC

Anonymous said...

jim out of control, someone step up and do something before he really does something bad.

Concerned Citizen said...

Dear Commerce City Council,

I will not reveal who I am, but I know for a fact that you have a weekly binder that has the council norms on it. One of those rules is Praise in Public, Criticize in Private. Your fights are al over the Internet and people are talking.

Even some city officials from other cities are laughing at us.

Let's get it together.

Concerned Citizen

AKA said...

did the city already do this job for Benson? what does it cost: 22.5 hours $30.00per hour $675 plus $.25 per copy, what about real time dollars number?

AKA

Tim Dalton said...

it is not fair to this current counicl to be all judged because of one's action. Council members are only humans, I wonder how all of you would act if you had to deal with Mr. Benson Legal Cluc in everything you try to do.

Tim Dalton

Run_Amok said...

Orval Lewis had the BEST comment of the night,

Consultants come in and tell us all something we already know, but not what to do to fix it?

Cycle of Commerce City Gov. and it needs to stop!

Run_Amok

Anonymous said...

Benson has not given up his rights as a citizen because he is on council. He can make open records requesta and receive the information.If it was another citizen not on council making the request, how would the city handle it?
I do wonder if other members of council have made similar requests without the publicity Benson is receiving. Has anyone else on council asked for and received information that meets the requirments for an open records request?
And have the council norms been posted yet? The citizens can help council meet the norms- if they are ever public.

Last, I can watch the entire Brighton City Council meeting on channel 8. It is on several times during the week. The Gateway has done a great job of live streaming and posting some of the comments, but it is not the same as Commerce City stepping up and allowing their citizens the transparency that Brighton citizens enjoy. We can spend $80,000 on another market study but still can't film the city council meetings that are in a room designed for this service.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Benson is definatly out of control. He is like the plant from little house of horrors. FEED ME!
He keeps getting fed by use of intimidation/law suits and gets stronger and stronger.
Where will his bulling end?
I have heard him in person and listened to him on line. He is arrogant and rude.
I agree he has done nothing positive for the city, certainly not for Ward 2.
He is like a sprea
ding cancer, that will consume the good in our city and give it an ugly appearance.
To Mr. Benson, if you really think people in Ward 2 are happy with you, you'd better ask around (not your buddys from Ward 1).

Anonymous said...

Jason M and Scott J opened a can of whoop A on Jim Benson. I agree that he doesn't represent ward 2issues. Has anyone started the paperwork to recall him? How many signatures are needed?

Anonymous said...

Listening to last night's tapes, especially Scott Jaquith, who I know is an easy going smart person, it is easy to see that Mr. Benson loves to push every envelope possible.
I heard about him painting his tree green, that is a perfect example of him being inconsiderate, but "within" the law.
He may think him self smart, but in my eyes he is a self serving DOPE.

Irene said...

I would like the city to look at the weed growth at 104th and Hwy 2, right below the sign that says {your tax dollars at work}. Weeds are at least 24 to 32 inches tall. Before the city can write any weed violations, it must set the example.

Irene, Commerce City

Erin NW said...

What is a City, but It's People?

you could have not said it any better, gateway!

Erin NW

Unitas said...

Current council should seriously consider adopting a ordinance against any more lawyers.

Usually, legal is the last resort, seems these days it is the first weapon at hand.

Unitas

Harold K., Commerce City said...

I am applaud that the council may have to hire a "referee" to have a meeting. Hope I am saying this right, but mayar did say $7,000! right?

Harold K., Commerce City

COME ON!

Wes said...

Did I hear right?,

Paul hinted to the fact that it is the plan of Jim Benson to get rid of the mayor and then try and take his seat as the mayor?

Any truth, maybe this should be one for the Rumor Control?

anyone, anyone?

Wes, CC

DeeDee said...

not positive, but I think it is a pretty sure bet that if benson doesn't get his way, he will take the legal road.

DeeDee

SS ctown said...

Is Natale the grassy knoll shooter too!?!?!?!?!?!?

giv it up benson.

if you spent all the time you did on getting a grocery store in your ward instead of trying to bury the mayor, we would have 3 kings and 4 safeways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SS, c town

Anonymous said...

A few blogs eludes that Benson is part of the recall commitee. Is it true. Can't imagine him trying to run for mayor since his own ward wants him out.

We have entered the CC Twilight Zone

Anonymous said...

OK NOW if the Colorado Department of Education does NOT do something now about Adams County School District 14, the parents should protest at the state capital. THANK YOU MR. QUINTANA FOR PUTTING LEWIS IN HER PLACE. You are the community hero. And everybody reading make sure you watch the entire nine minutes of the video. LEWIS RESIGN NOW PLEASE!!!!!

Anonymous said...

GOOD JOB GATEWAY NEWS AND DUSTIE!Thank you for getting the Larry Quintana video for all of us to see. Thank you from all the students of Adams County School District 14.

Yuri said...

looks like school district is trying to top city council drama.

Still give the drama award to city counil.

Beth said...

I am not in favor of recalling a council member for doing something as petty as what Jim did.

It will not happen, the citizen need a REAL reason to start a recall. It was not right for Sean, Paul and it is not right for Jim.

Recall threat is used entirely way too much in this town.

Reality is there never has been a successful recall of city council and I honestly think there never will be unless there is a real reason, this is just common sense.

Beth

Anonymous said...

Beth, Maybe you should watch counicl more often, jim is out of control. losers here are me and you!

Harold K., Commerce City said...

no recall, Benson should start being a team player or resign, end of story.

Orien said...

city: please keep golf course, just maybe look at how it is managed. I also have no problem if you decide to bring in a golf course consultant.
Orien, Reunion

Audrey said...

Mayor Paul,
Keep up the good work! People are watching and talking, we all see that you are on the right track.

Johnathan said...

Benson may not be ethical, but legally right. See this not turing out very well for the city at all. Please don't let him bring Denver Lawyers into our city again!

Johnathan

Erin NW said...

Important to know,

Is Mr. Benson planning on bring in more legal fees to the city on the mayor email thing?

Very Concerned Citizen,
Erin NW

Anonymous said...

watched the video and sounds like the quintana guy wants the district to be run by hispanics because of the hugh illegal population in the district. I'm sure if look at almost every older school where hispanics are the majority now anglos as he states were there first and attended the school. Enough with the entitlement crap, either you're part of the US of American or a mexican can't be both.

Anonymous said...

I must agree with Beth.
The recall threat is used WAY to often.
What ever happened to VOTING, and doing it with an educated understanding of the candidate. Not like a popularity contest.
FYI, I can't stand Benson. He is trouble and will continue to be just that!

DeeDee said...

Larry Quintana has become a great leader, a independent thinker and a wonderful voice for the Hispanic Community.

He has won my support on anything he does.

Thank you Mr. Quintana

DeeDee

Brian Knox said...

anyone else think current council has maybe letting their hair down a little too much?

example, asking Jim to resign?

Have not made a firm opinion about this yet, just wanted to hear from others.

ps - To all the candidates who are answering the questions, thank you. a great way to get educated about the issues and you personally

Brian Knox, Commerce City

Linda said...

city has made such a big deal about the mayor's emails, I am dying to see them now!!!!!!

Blow something up so much, all you do is stir the interest of the enquiring minds!!!!!!!!!!!

Going to get the emails gateway!!??

Linda, commerce city

ccSpeaks said...

IF THERE IS NOTHING IN EMAILS, WHY IS COUNCILING FIGHT SO HARD TO KEEP THEM QUITE AND GETTING SO EMOTIONAL ABOUT THEM

ccSpeaks

Anonymous said...

Getting emotional because of the principal of the matter, not because of the content, if you can't figure that out, you should pay more attention to what is going on.

King of Olive Street said...

off with Larry's head!

oh no he didnt!

King of Olive Street

Anonymous said...

Brian~ if you had been following this long saga with Mr. Benson, you would have been aware of his on going "pushing to the limit" attitude.
He has done this with the public, apparently also with the council. Listen to the executive session tapes, they at least give you a little history of his "over the top" methods of dealings.

AKA said...

Larry is a HERO!

or should I say a Qero!!

Thank you Larry for standing up for what you believe in!

AKA

Ward 2 voter who had enough said...

True or False,

Did I hear right, did Benson admit that he was indeed talking to the recall people?

Ward 2 voter who had enough

Anonymous said...

If "true or false" is right,
that Benson is working with the recall people then:

his request for the emails, was a way to work around the payment for such (asking as a council person)
fishing for something to go after.
maybe legal but certainly unethical and sneaky.
wasting city time and not focusing on his elected job.
yes I have had enough too!

Dalton said...

gateway,

heard a rumor of a new dump area near the one on tower. any thuth to this?

Dalton

Anonymous said...

Dalton,
I heard the same thing, but also heard that is bad info. It is being spred around the city, but not true.
God knows why people start this kind of stuff. Maybe to get people riled.

Anonymous said...

Is the are a location where I can sign the petition to recall Jim Benson! MY OPINION IS THAT HE DOES NOT REPRESENT WARD 2 INTERESTS AND MUST BE FORCED OUT IF HE DOESN'T RESIGN

Bill D. said...

YOU HAVE TO HEAR,

Go to the Gateway News newly posted video of Jim and Paul talking. at about 29 seconds on, I am thinking that Jim admits that he is working with some of the original recall group.

All city needs to do is play this in court to show that Jim is NOT actng as a counicl member but rather a agent for the original recall group.

Don't take my word for it, listen for yourself, it is the newly posted video and like I wrote before it is about 29 to 30 seconds into it.

Bill D., Commerce City

Opus said...

Gateway,

I have questions for Gene Leffel (the other ward 1 candidate) do I post them here?

Opus, Commerce City

Gateway News said...

Opus,

Yes, please do. I will make sure Gene gets them one way or another.

Dustie M. Gateway News

Dezarie, North Range said...

people,

I am upset with Benson too. But a recall?

PLEASE NO! We need to work with Jim and move on with the important business of the city, whoever said that if all the time on Benson was spent on a grocery store in the North, we would have one is RIGHT ON!

I just want things to settle down and focus be the primary concern

Dezarie

Anonymous said...

Sorry,

Benson gone to far! I am all for a recall. Tell me where to sign.

Anonymous said...

Dezarie, Did you watch the last video where jim benson admits involvevment with last recall and again helping the bullock and carz club with another recall attempt against the mayor? It's not about a grocery store in the north it's about the lack of representation. He's there for the needs of ward 2.

Anonymous said...

Benson is a lawyer first, second ,third.
He loves to debate, prove he is smarter (than everyone) and push everything to the edge of legal. Ethics be Da--ed!
If you tell he shouldn't, he will.
If you tell him he can't, he will anyway.
He is rude,obnoxious,dismissive and arrogant. Those are his good qualities.
He needs no one.
He can draft the rule, vote it in and tell you it is the right thing, without anyones input.

Yuri said...

Paul at Mcd's is GREAT! I guess he really did work there!

LOVE the OUTFIT!!!!!!!!!!!

Yuri

Tim Dalton said...

Paul,

Did you give permission to Gateway to post your Photo of you at McDonalds?

Or is this Gateway undercover work?

Tim Dalton

DeeDee said...

I am not going to say how old I am, but I also remember those cash registers at McDonalds!

DeeDee

Irene said...

I LOVE YOUR SHIRT PAUL!!!!!

Great Photo!

I never would have guessed that was you!

Irene, Commerce City

Harold K., CC said...

Mayor,

Do you still have that shirt? If so, can you wear it on Mondays. I say it is the new counicl uniform.

I also use to work for McDonalds back in the day

Harold K., CC

Ryland said...

Mr. Natale,

Please tell us you still have that shirt. Please wear to council.

Ryland, Commerce City

Curious in Reunion said...

Can anyone tell me whats going on with Pro Park if anything?

Curious in Reunion

Unitas said...

I remember when fries at mcdonalds were 10 cents! That shows you hw old I am!

Unitas, Commerce City

ccSpeaks said...

clarification, the CARZ group never officially supported the recall of Mayor Natale as a group.

ccSpeaks

Fred A. said...

Council person Jason made comment, Jim behavior may spook the dev. community. I wonder how many good quality candidates also got spooked into not running because Fred A. fred303@mail.com

Anonymous said...

ccspeaks:
Offical or not everyone who spoke to them knew the majority worked on the mayors recall!

Collette K. said...

God Bless our Police Department. Thank you guys for doing an outstanding job. I feel very safe living in Commerce City

Collette K.

Chad said...

I went to jack in the box in the core part of the city. I use to live in California and I have to say jack in box has come a long ways. It was amazing how good it was. I encourge everyone to at least try it one time, anyone would thought they knew jack in the box will be shocked in a good way.

Chad Askins

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