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Who's with me?
Parents and Community for 27J
A reminder of our meeting on Monday, Sept 19 at 6:30 at United Power. We will be writing short messages on post cards which will be one of the personal, one to one messages that we will be giving to our community. Just bring a friend, a pen, some snacks...it will be a post card writing party.
Commerce City Council to Discuss Process of Citizen communications during City Council meetings...
http://t.co/R9Rn1RpP
Flannery Shmannery - $50,000 to remodel office in a BRAND NEW BUILDING - $72,000 stolen in house deal, Federal Discrimination Lawsuits - 3 City Managers for town of 45,000 - one of whom is grossly incompetent and was never qualified for the job - it is possible VanDeventer and Flannery are both ethically challenged - how about we elect a Council that will hire an ethical and QUALIFIED City Manager - last two did had ZERO experience in City Management - FACT!
Irene, do you know that the city didn't, just because it didn't happen, does not mean they didn't work hard on that exact issue!
Please don't assume!
I also agree. They both embarass me, how sad that no one else ran.
No choices
I heard that Marty Flam is Fords campaign mngr and will be the next city mngr!!
RE: Citizen Communication for Commerce City
Don't let Jim Benson bully you on this one. City needs to keep this the way it is. GN put up the entire policy and it makes perfect sense.
CC council can not be broad sided during citizen communication and then react emotionally.
Council needs to hear what the citizens and residents have to say and then research it and then take the right action.
The way it is now if almost perfect.
Further, if 3 mins. is not enough time to get your point across, then maybe you need to set up an appointment.
This is nothing more then a bully tactic by Jim Benson.
CC Council. LEAVE THE POLICY FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION THE WAY IT IS.
Too bad one of the many who are running for at-large or ward 2 are not running for mayor. I think any of those would have been better choice for our mayor position.
Maybe we should just get rid of mayor position and just have 9 generic council members.
Buffalo Proud, we are stuck with the two who ran. Guess lesson is learned, not to wait for the other guy/gal.
Hope the rest of the council can keep us from being embarassed.
Your right, lesson learned.
Fantasy Budget
At the Sept. 12th Retreat, it was decided to negotiate with Kronke about the 3.7 million we still owe for the "Suite and Soccer fields." I'd like to break this contract, let them keep their soccer fields our children do not use and our 1.3 million for the use of the suite. Sean Ford and Perry Van Deventer used taxpayer money for a soccer suite? CC needs to cut all financial ties to Kronke. Can, we afford to vote Sean Ford back into office?
I would like to see the 4.1 million dollars in one-time money stay in reserve for future city emergencies. CC is not out of the recession by a long shot! Out of the ten poorest states, Commerce City falls right in with the 5th poorest state, Louisiana for average income earned. Moreover, if the city uses the returned 1.2 million Park Impact Fees for anything else, the North might seriously revolt. It's time to stop counting peanuts and clickers for a fantasy budget and get real with taxpayers money.
Estelle,
I usually disagree with you, but you are making more and more sense these days.
Suite is for ED opportunities. Not a bad thing. Also, really look at when city did this. Present the facts!
Estelle Remington asks-Can, we afford to vote Sean Ford back into office?
The answer is no. We have a good council and staff that will control toaves as mayor.
This is are only choice to move forward.
A vote for Toavs, if nothing else will say we no longer want the Ford dynasty in power.
It is time for a clean slate.
I don't want someone taking trips to India to finance themselves, in exchange for water deals done with the dad connection.
I agree that Toavs can be directed by a strong honest council.
Sorry, Estelle. Someone gave you the wrong info. The Suite at the Rapids was under Jerry Flannery and Paul Natale.
Estelle
Thank you for bringing up the ugly parts of Sean's reign. Seemed like everyone forgets how many negative press stories we received while he was mayor. What makes anyone think he has changed? We will be back to every deal being made by what he receives.
Estelle,
We have to work with Kronke on getting businesses in Victory Crossing. Maybe not a good idea to break contracts with him.
But I get your point, it is a very bad contract for Commerce City. Unless, the businesses do take off and we had a bunch of revenue from it. I think that was maybe the idea of it and then the economy took a tumble.
Dusty,
Are you going to get a great picture of Commerce City Mayor Paul Natale handing the gavel to new Mayor Sean Ford?!
A great moment for the Republicans in Adams County!
Why does Commerce City not have a real Chamber of Commerce?
This is why we are always left behind.
Our revenues are going down and expenses going up? Lets invest in a Chamber of Commerce and get the revenues up with new business.
Whos with me!
CC does not need a Chamber of Commerce. We have some the best in the business on the city staff.
A Commerce City Chamber of Commerce was talked about maybe 5 years ago. It never took off because lack of support and interest.
A Chamber of Commerce would be a great thing in Commerce City.
Look what it has done for Broomfield.
So, let me get this straight. The supporters of Robert Toevs think that even though he is unqualified and currently incompetent to be mayor, that they are going to vote for him because he can be coached by the city manager and the new council. Unbelieveable Are you kidding me?!?!
Yuri, an effort was made to start a Chamber in CC. It got no interest and no real start.
Apathy again!
Anonymous, guess that shows how many don't want Ford in office again!! Sad huh?
If people thought they could do a better job than Sean Ford and if they thought they could have beat him in this election, they would have run against him. He indicated last year that he was going to run, giving people a whole year to go to council meetings, get involved and run for mayor if they wanted to. As for those on council that said that they didn't run because they were termed out, well, any of them could have run in the last mayor election. They chose not to.
Are we getting a ramp on tower to Pena? E-470 is paying for it?
Great News about China for Commerce City! What business is coming?
Yes Estelle,
Mayor Paul Natalie Thanks you for bringing up the ugly parts of Sean's reign.
Again, Again and Again - the mayor does not run the City nor does the council - their role is ceremonial and an informality at best- all they are really required to do is attend council meetings and very little else. Elect a Council who is intelligent enough to see Flannery and his droves of overpaid and unqualified staff for what they really are and get rid of them and hire a real City Manager (only one is needed) see Gateway comparative analysis story on this issue for reference. Please quit giving Ford, Taoves Natale and the rest of them bigger heads than they already have for being a City Council person in a weak mayor system (used in all cities in the State except Denver because of size and population) Commerce City - it really is nothing to write home about in the big picture. Qualified experienced City manager equals well run City - PERIOD! P.S. Flannery isn't it!
I didn't hear anything about China coming to CC.
That got lost when some on council wanted guarantees that business would come, before they would support building relationships.
Other cities took it over.
I swore I heard something about China. Maybe my source is wrong. I will have to go back to the video and see if there is anything on China.
The "mayor" of P F nannning is coming to Commerce City next week.
Looking for investors for China.
All of this relationship building with the Chinese is good. It will pay off some day, you will see.
Been hearing about the China coming to Commerce City for years now.
Not happening. Nothing more then just a treat trip (like Jerry and Germany because media was tough on him). Natalie gets to go to China one last time before he fades off to a nobody.
The mayor does not run the City nor does the council?
They do set the direction? That to me is running the city.
Commerce City Staff Does run the city. And pretty Damn well too I might add.
We are doing so well sometimes I break out in a dance when I think about how well we are doing.
Challenges? Sure. But, I would give my left arm to any of the city managers in Ole CC.
It is a wonderful city to live in.
Gateway,
Does the city of Commerce City subsidize the Coffee Shop in city hall? If so, how much?
Suites and Stuff
Thanks, I understand that Flannery and Natalie purchased the Soccer Suite to entertain and make contacts for city business. And, didn't the Ford Administration use the Golf course to make their contacts? Do, we have to invite every new prospect into the Soccer suite to get new business? What has our economy come too? Evidently, this is not working or we would have Wal Mart and others just dying to get into the Soccer Suite and on the Golf course. If, this is how we do business, we don't need incentive programs. It is honest hard work by our Economic Department and Shea Properties that has brought us new development. So, cancel the suite!
Estelle,
People that have the big money that make things happen do this.
It is not uncommon to wine and dine a business prospect. It is how the world works. I say keep the suite. At the end of the day, if anything it is a very good PR showcase.
1. I applaud the Commerce City council on tackling the so-called citizen communication process.
Still a work in progress.
Love how they are taking the ACSD#14 idea of answering in public any of the questions that were asked in public.
2. Speaking of that idea, seems to me whatever is on this blog comes out as actually happening or ideas.
Thanks Gateway!
Council sets direction- yep- you guessed it - as suggested and presented by- yep - in most cases - the City Manager and staff. I invite anonymous who thinks the 3 managers running the City are doing such a great job to do a citizen survey and even better -an employee survey (which other City manages have done)to confirm their assertion - go ahead I DARE YOU.
Spending some time in the awesome suite at the Rapids Stadium would sure make me want to put by business in good ole CC -even if it made no sense for any other reason - GET REAL FOLKS -its the Rapids Stadium - PLEEEEEEEZE get a grip of your selves or get back on your meds.
Estelle, I could be wrong, but I don't think the city spent any money to have use of the soccer suite.
I think it was given to the city to use, since the contract that happened before Flannery and Natale gave the city very little, it was a little something to make up for that poor deal.
Archer, I listened to the meeting. The mayor said that the Chinese are coming to Denver metro area.
That he is planning to meet with them, maybe show them around, but their destination wasn't CC. The other cities are stepping up to get their attention. CC lost because of a couple people on council, one up for re-election.
No, I am not the mayor or related to council.
The Chinese were never really interested in Commerce City. Natale always said at council meetings that it was for the region. Totally worthless. If they had been interested in Commerce City, they would have come here in the beginning. When they did come here, it was a brief stopover with them moving on elsewhere. Some think its mostly just their PR thing. Besides, the USA needs to build products here, using US materials and employ here with U.S. companies. .
Real Deal
We need to get real with doing business with the world. CC can be listed with the ten poorest States in the U.S. In fact, we fall somewhere in the middle of this list. Even if, we get that Soccer Suite for free, which, we all know that nothing comes free anymore, we will pay for this down the road, we can not play with the high rollers. This is out of our league. China is looking for future natural resources of which Colorado has one of the largest natural gas shale deposits in the world. They are just playing diplomatic games with CC. Stuff that looks good to the home town folks in China and the U.S. Hopefully, this is drawing to an end.
Soccer Suite for KSE was Not I repeat Not Free.
Say what you will. Commerce City, having lots of empty land and being so close to a major airport is set up nicely to do business with China.
It would only take one Chinese business to make all of this effort worth it.
Yes, it could be anywhere in the Denver Metro area. But, it could also be in Commerce City.
Lets at least try!
I say bring the Chinese businesses here. They will have to hire people, they will have to pay people, they will have to return some of the money and jobs they have taken away from the US.
I for one hope it does work!!
We have perfect land near DIA for a new business from China or anywhere else. We need not close the door on anyone, that will bring us business/jobs.
The Comcast Program was the very Program that Tracey Snyder was trying to talk to Casso about. Apparently he is too good to help those who need it in our community.
Also, looks like Casso's Golden Boy is being revealed. I heard some other Commerce City council member made some comment about running at the King Soopers ground breaking in the newlands.
Any news on this GN?
Gateway News just twittered the Denver and Garbage story.
I say if it really helps our city (Commerce City) I say lets all suck it up and help out.
If it is going to keep our city on the right track. Lets all chip in and help.
I am all for ending free trash service in Commerce City.
RRR,
I will be more then willing to pay for trash serice in CC, just give me back all the money from de-Brucing.
Cut me a check and we will be straight.
Also,
You can not tell me what service to use.
Freebie Trash Service in Commerce City:
too bad commerce city council got scared by a few orange post cards. they should have taken on this freebie. it will only get bigger and bigger. eventually someone is going to have to take this on. i would assume cc would want to the council to be responsible.
freebie trash service needs to be seriously looked at.
Sad that 27J parents and community support group have to go ask for a resolution from Commerce City. Why doesn't Commerce City just do one like everyone else did.
Commerce City is always the unique one!
Commerce City Council member Dominick Moreno Announces he will be Running for Colorado House District 32 in 2012...
So the Sith has chosen his apprentice.
So Dominick finally gets off the fence he has ridden so long he has splinters in his butt, and decides, after not getting the job he wanted with Congressman Perlmutters office, to run for the House! Well another Ed Casso in a different body is still another Ed Casso! Everybody take note that Dominick was pretty eager to take away your free trash, and only because Tracey Snyder stood up to them do you still have it! My guess is that they will wait until she is off Council and then move to take it away! Do you want more Medical Marajuana shops in our town? Dominick voted to let them have it easier to get here! I say stay strong Tracey and we will all stay behind you!
I think it is interesting that for the first time since the Historical Society started a few years ago, Dominick showed up to their meeting. I wonder why he is all of a sudden interested? Tracey has been a member from the start! Digging for votes are we Dominick? Too bad we all know why you suddenly showed up! And by the way, his "announcement party" is on the same afternoon as the Historical Society picnic at Vetrans Park! So much for his interest in the Historical Society! Keep going Tracey! We are all 100% behind you! We know what is coming your way with Ed Casso, I mean Dominick Moreno, and we know the good people of this town see it for what it is!
Who is more qualified to finally give Commerce City its place at the table in the State House? Tracey Snyder or Dominck Moreno? I say Tracey, hands down. For one she is not jumping ship on City Council in the middle of her first term! Yes,one half of his first term and he is already wanting to leave. Is CC his stepping stone to bigger things? Looks that way! Tracey has served Council for eight plus years. She has the experience and knowledge to take care of us. I say everyone get behind our hometown girl Tracey Snyder!
Tracey! Tracey! Tracey! Tracey!
At least with Tracey she is doing it right. She fulfilled her obligation with Commerce City as a Council Women and then decided to move forward with her political career.
Commerce City Historical Society 4th annual Pioneer Picnic at Veteran's Memorial Park, just north of 60th Ave. on Forest Dr., beginning at 1 p.m.
Moreno was taught by Ed Casso! I think my vote will go to Tracey Snyder!
I heard that my idea for a hospital at the dog track has been made by others. I don't mind. But I have more ideas.
Rename the area. Something that pays homage to what made Commerce City sustainable. My idea is to name the 65 acres something like "Commerce Commons" or "Commerce Park". The theme could be a re-purposed Industrial look. It is a green idea and could be really unique. URA will need to really work with whatever goes in there to stick to the theme. It could really look nice. Exposed brick and beams with re-purposed Warehouse elements. Could have areas of local industrial metal material art work.
It would be like what Stapleton did with the whole aviation theme in its area.
So that's my idea. Please anyone steal it and make it your own.
GN,
So how does this work with Tracey and Moreno both running, do we Dems have to chose or does it go to a primary?
Archer,
Great ideas. Maybe you should go to the URA meetings?
PRO City,
I can't because of work (pilot). Besides looks like my ideas are getting out there anyhow.
I Love the Industrial Theme!
We are some of the seniors who went to the Senior Vollunteer Awards Dinner tonight. It was very nice. Tracey Snyder did an excellent job! She is always kind and honestly interested in what we have to say and she listens to us! The only way we can keep her is to send her to the State House for us! So everyone lets do that! We will get a girl who knows where she comes from, and wont forget us!
I was talking with Tracey Snyder yesterday. She told me that the Comcast program they had on the news was the very same program she tried to get Ed Casso, our supposed State Rep to help her bring to Commerce City! What is wrong with Ed Casso that he would not want to help kids in his own district? I think we would be making a huge mistake sending Dominick to the State-he has been taught by Ed Casso. I know I am not alone in saying that one Ed is enough!
Great news was received today.The news was that Dominick Moreno has decided to make a bid to become State Representative in District 32.
Dominick has been a counsel person here in Commerce City for the past few years and has worked hard to make good things happen for the citizens and the city. I am sure that when he becomes our State Representative he will again be working to make good things happen but than at a higher level. Watch closely and see how great he will be when he wins the election.
(and by a great margin)
At this time your vote for Dominick is the best decision you can make.
BOB ZEILER
yracy
Tracy Snider ???
Isnt she the counsel person who was and for now is on numerous boards in the city. Only problem with this is I wonder how many of the meetings of these boards did she actually attend and how much input she gave when she did attend.
I say she is a member by name only.
I know for fact that she was on the liquor board and attended very few meetings and when asked to relinquish her seat refused to give it up.
Now running for State Rep. Dist 32 I don't think so.
well, it is back to the old CC. The plan from the past group is if Robert Tavos wins, they will wait 6 months and recall him, then put Ford back in. I had such great hopes for our city. How do we get out of this mind set?
Whatever, there has never been a successful recall for CC council. All just a bunch of hot air.
By the way, Sean Ford will be the next mayor. Toavs will get his 15 mins.
Must have been a weird day for Mayor Natale, wonder how he felt talking in front of Commerce City Historical Society?
Commerce City Council Retirement Benefits
It is absolutely not fair that City Council (part time position at its best) get this benefit when the part time city employees do not.
This should be done away with going forward.
Tracey Snyder has been on alot of boards and commissions, committees, and much more. And she has served them all very well. Tracey is one of the few Councilmembers who actually shows up for meetings and activites outside of Monday night meetings! She was the first person ever to be put on a National League of Cities Steering Committee, and has served on both Transportation and Infrastructure, and Public Safety and Crime Prevention. I see Tracey everywhere. And lets not forget she does it all with a broken back! Whomever said that she does not show up to meetings is WAY misinformed! Shes one of the best weve got!
Tracey Snyder was a member of the Liquor Authority for several years. She and Kathy Teter were member and alternate. Kathy wanted to be the full time member when Tracey was chosen Mayor Pro Tem, and had more responsibilites. Tracey and Kathy worked that out and it has been fine. Tracey never refused to give it up! Where do you people get this stuff?
All of the Mayors did a great job today at the Historical Society picnic! Mayor Natale gave a very nice shout out to Tracey Snyder for all of her work and efforts! Thank you Mayor for saying what we all think-that she has been a great Councilmember, Mayor Pro Tem, and will be great for us at the State!
Sorry Mr. Zeiler, but I do not agree with you. Dominick is jumping ship on the Council with barely two years of service under his belt. Looks to us like he was using Council as a stepping stool,and is obviously not where he wants to be. We do not need another Ed Casso. And thats exactly what we are going to get if we elect him! I say we make the right choice this time- Vote Snyder!
A few facts about Tracey Snyder:
Tracey represents the City of Commerce City and the State of Colorado on the Women In Municiple Government, The National League of Cities Public Safety/Crime Prevention Steering Committee, and is the Colorado State Chair for the Democratic Municiple Officials;
Tracey worked for years on the Stakeholders group to bring a Boys and Girls Club to Commerce City;
Tracey worked to help bring about a bigger and better Salud Clinic in her Ward to serve children who cant afford health or dental care;
Tracey served Community Health Services as a Board member to serve uninsured and underinsured children in our school district;
Tracey has been highly involved in Economic Development in Commerce City and attended ICSC with the ED Staff twice in the last four years. This year she and Jason McEldowney attended a total of 80 meetings in a couple of days- a record for our City.
And thats just getting started. For those of you who dont think she does enough. Stay posted, there is alot more.
Also agree, Snyder is the way to go. Make sense on so many levels.
Moreno should get some more experience under his belt. Don't think you know it all because you went to GW and have a couple years of local experience.
With the news of Dominick Moreno making a run for HD32. Does Perlmutter still back Tracy Snyder?
Why does Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division have same address as Commerce City's URA new dog track?
http://media.westword.com/5140806.0.pdf
My vote goes to Steve Douglas, at large candidate for cc council. He has the heart, common sense and experience to help the people of Commerce City. He is a hardworking and honest man who is not afraid to speak his mind. He has earned the respect of many as he has done a great job with the boards that he has been on. He is also a devoted husband and is the best father I have ever seen. Whoever wrote that he is trying to say he brought King Soopers to Commerce City just doesn't know Steve. He is a humble and generous man who would never take credit for anything he did not do. I have heard him say many, many times that he is so excited that Shea and King Soopers finally got the King Soopers store off and running to the finish line. He has often said that King Soopers has been a wonderful employer and that he looks forward to all the jobs it will afford the people in Commerce City and how great their services and groceries are. Whoever wrote about him negatively on this blog just doesn't know him very well at all. In fact, that person sounded extremely arrogant and condescending. For the record, Steve worked at King's at night so he could go to all of his children's school and other events but changed to days so that he will be available to attend council meetings.My vote goes to Steve Douglas, a man of vision, courage and integrity.
It is very disappointing that Mr. Moreno is trying for another job before he has finished his term and promises to help the people of his ward. This will just further divide the people of HD 32 and especially the people of Commerce City. Do we really have to go through all of this? Its just one thing after another.
This also has Dog Track in CC as an Address? What is it?
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheader=application%2Fpdf&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1251713985757&ssbinary=true
I agree. If Dominick Moreno would keep his promises to the people of Ward 1 and finish his term, we wouldnt have to go through this at all! Tracey has done all of her time, two full terms, plus the extra time they had from changing the elections from April to November.
Why Dominick are you doing this to us? Its selfish on your part and does not live up to the promise you made to us to serve our City.
We,a group of seniors in Commerce City, are backing Tracey Snyder. We know her. We believe in her. She really loves her City and loves us, and we feel the same about her!
Mr. Moreno is not doing anything except for representing Commerce City at the state level. He is not walking away from Commerce City. He is taking his natural leadership to the next level.
Don't try to make it more then what it is.
Commerce City's Dog Track
All happened on August 2, 2011
First CLP NORTH 8 LLC bought the dog track from MH PROPERTY LLC aka MILE HIGH KENNEL CLUB, INC. for $3,333,200.
Second URBAN RENEWAL AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF COMMERCE CITY bought the dog track from CLP NORTH 8 LLC for $3,350,000.
So someone walked away with a check for $16,800 for just showing up at the closings, which are really boring and lots of papers to sign and they did actually have to sit there thru TWO of them, so I guess its ok. Right?
Sounds to me that someone probably brokered the deal for the city, so the city's "name" was quiet. Otherwise the price would have gone sky high.
Not bad to save millions.
Don't get the complaint, I imagine they did much more than "sign a few papers".
Re: Goldberg Properties and the URA purchase.
Yes they did much more then just sit in two meeting.
Broker for Dog track>
Yes they did do a lot more. A lot is involved.
CLP NORTH 8 LLC (CC Dog Track Purchase)
Too bad it is Farber (Nascar Guy)
http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/ViewImage.do?fileId=20071275021&masterFileId=20071275021
Sorry Pro Moreno, but when a man comes to my door and shakes my hand and asks for my vote for a term on City Council in our Ward, I believe that if he bails, his word is no good. He is bailing on his seat on Commerce City Council. That is a fact.
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No other way to put it! FACT: Moreno is bailing on his seat. So unfair to the community!
For the record, just so Mr. Moreno knows. There is no double dippling for retirement. It is subtracted from any other social security or government benefit (like Pera, for instance). The remark was an uninformed one.
CONGRATULATIONS TO STEVE DOUGLAS! He was endorsed by the FOP!
So, someone out there thinks it is easy to earn a PHD, that all you need is money and time. What nonsense. And value? Generally, let's compare paychecks with folks that earned a PHD to those that did not. It is really strange that someone brought up this issue with regard to Kristy Sumner, who has a PHD and many other pretty incredible credentials. Doesn't make a bit of sense. My vote goes to Kristy Sumner, PHD, and a candidate who totally committed herself to Commerce City boards, commissions, groups and citizens long before she decided to run for office.
District 32
Council member Moreno has served in Washington D.C. and has more experience than Ms. Synder even though she has served 8 years on council. He is moving up to where the greater need is for his service and expertise. One can not call this bailing when there are several good people to take his council seat but only a few qualified to serve in District 32. It is called serving where the greatest need is.
Funny how Commerce City Council will sit in meeting and discuss 1500 a year for city council members to attend events. But will total ignore a citizens when they bring up the 72K that was given to the Commerce City City Manager for a loss on a house in AZ that turned out to be a gain. Essentially protecting a man who makes 170K a year from the Housing Crisis.
Maybe that is why the Citizens Hate the Commerce City Publication and will not read it.
It has been said that Commerce City needs to repair relationships with the Commerce City businesses. I say how the hell are you going to repair the relationship with the Commerce City Citizens?
I read the Commerce City News all of the time. I don't know what Jason McEldowney is talking about.
The City News is Full of great information.
Past City Manager of Commerce City Perry Vandeventer Enters Not Guilty Plea To Embezzling Casper Nursing Home
Perry Vandeventer, the past city manager of Commerce City and former Chief Financial Officer for the Shepard of the Valley nursing home in Casper, has been charged with grand larceny and obtaining property by false pretenses.
It was reported that an investigation by nursing home staff found that Vandeventer received fraudulent expense reimbursements worth more than $24,000, and that he used 2 business credit cards to charge more than $28,000 in personal expense.
Vandeventer currently is on a $5,000 bond and has a trial scheduled for November.
EXACTLY!
THIS IS WHY WE ARE DAY AND NIGHT FROM WHERE WE WERE.
THANK GOD FOR THE PROFESSIONALISM AND COMPETENCY OF OUR CITY MANAGER MR. FLANNERY.
A big thanks to the Commerce City council for finally addressing the non-partisan/partisan events and using city tax dollars. About time this got addressed!
Perry took 58K
Jerry took 72K
Which one do you want? At least we had things happening when Perry was at the helm.
Perry is still my hero.
Not to complain and I already know there is no money in Commerce City.
But, there are 26 street lights out on 104th Ave. Count them for yourself.
Sorry Estelle, but everyone knows you dont like Tracey Snyder. So of coarse you support Dominick. But you are very wrong when you speak about experience. They have both been to college. She has a medical background and was trained as an MA and as I have said before, used to give me shots every single week! She prepared antigens in the lab for a five office, large and busy Allergy and Asthma group. Lives were in her hands everyday.
Secondly, after she got on Council she went back to school. She was accepted into a very prestigous leadership program. She was honored for being the first elected official ever to get in.
That being said, there is no experience like life to teach you. Tracey raised two children as a single mom. She knows what it is like to be a hard working, single mother trying to make a life for her kids. These are things that Dominick could never understand. We need a leader at the State House who will fight for us and who understands what we need. Dominick does not have the experience that he needs to take the next step. And he made a promise to the people of our City to serve Ward 1.
Tracey is our girl.
Did anyone catch the Council meeting last night? I did, and Tracey Snyder did a great job handling even the rude Jim Benson. Anyone that can handle him and not lose their cool has my vote! Nice job Tracey!
I have to chip in here. Not everyone in the "south" is an illegal or uneducated. Some of us grew up here, have roots outside of the southern americas and speak English! Some of us still care for our yards and take pride in the homes we live in.
We are in need of a boys and girls club, a water park and more options for our youth! I also believe thier is poverty everywhere and someone stated its Social Services issues and I agree. My kids who are not included in many of the cities and districts stats and should not have to suffer.
I choose not to live in the northern range because as someone stated "those kids" are not on the same level as D14, and i choose not to let my kids live in ignorance.
Im so tired of hearing how the "north residents" have such disgust with commerce cities south end. Hello you are the ones that moved to commerce city!!! We have been here all along! Move if you dont like it... And from talking to members of the police dept, sounds like your fancy north has a lot more drug, gang and domestic issues then the south! Hmmm maybe you do need a rec center for your troubled youth!!!!
Thank you
A great big thank you to Public works, Gregg Clemens and Sam for their prompt response to that big hole on Eagle Creek Parkway. It was an accident waiting to happen.
Agreed,
Tracey does have a "cool head". A much needed attribute for anyone who will be down at the capital.
Vote Tracey for House D. 32!
QUESTION:
The problem with politics in America today is that it is based too much on personality rather than policy. The federal government cannot get anything done because it is a character battle between members of Congress and President Obama. We pick our sides and ignore the fact that neither has very effective ideas. Now there are 2 Democrats running for House District 32 in 2012 (before we have decided who to vote for in 2011)! I'd like to know where Tracey Snyder and Dominick Moreno stand on Proposition 103. This is the proposed tax increase for public education on the 2011 statewide ballot. It was put there by state Senator Rollie Heath, Boulder Democrat. This is the type of issue that will come up over and over in the legislature. Their city council experience is fairly irrelevant.
CAN SOMEONE GET AN ANSWER FROM THEM?
Give us a break Pro City 2.0 - or City employee whoever you are. Flannery - $50k to remodel his office one month on the job in A BRAND NEW BUILDING! 72K swindled from City due to his dishonesty about his house sale in Arizona (an offense the City Council can fire him for) Federal Discrimination Lawsuits - Flannery is no more honest or professional than VanDeventer - City Council PLEASE hire an experienced City Manager _ experienced in running a City not experience in fleecing us citizens.
This could be good for ward one!
Lets all vote for Crystal Elliott, and Gene Leffel all of us and then when Domnick Moreno win the house seat, the Commerce City Council can appoint Jeannette Lewis.
We would then have 3 reps. from ward one!
Oh and by the way,
Mrs. Jeannette Lewis has done nothing but good for this community including the school district and housing!
When D14 gets their act together and finally decide to make the old ACHS site into a large middle School. I for one will push to name it Jeannette Lewis Middle School!
I know some of you laugh and I know who you are. But I am damn serious!
I think lewis already has a building named after her in commerce city.
WOW! now I heard it all!
Yes! I Love It!
Jeannette Lewis Middle School (old ACHS)
Patricia S. Schroeder Street (old Tower Rd) or Patricia S. Schroeder (RMA Visitor Center)
and lastly,
Paul Natale Rec Center (Commerce City Norther Rec Center)
I'll compare my paycheck to Sumner's as a low level professor. I make over 100k a year with no college at all.
Core comments, that is the money that the citizens know about. Does not include the stuff that was covered up, including credit card bills by the then mayor Ford.
Can it be proven, no, Vandeventer covered for Ford, and Ford covered for Vandeventer.
Let them both be your heros, they aren't mine!
Charoltte,
The lights are not the cities to replace.
You need to send the request to United Power (send it to the city and they will contact United Power).
FYI, the city building "remodel" was not a remodel, but a return to the design planned originally.
After Vandeventer left some "changes" were made by staff to redesign, when the new city manger was hired it was made right.
Attack who you want make up lies all you want.
Its pretty easy to figure who you are!!
Estelle, when the heck did Moreno "serve" in DC??
He went to school there, yes, but "serve"?
Did he wait tables there while in college or what??
Archer,
uhhhhh NO, that will Never happen!
I talked to both Tracey Snyder and Dominick Moreno support Proposition 103.
Estelle,
Moreno was an aide to some Colo. Reps in Colorado House, not DC.
Just so you know.
Thank you for the lights on 104th information. I will contact United Power.
Thanks!
Re:
Perry took 58K
Jerry took 72K
Perry's 58K was from the Wyoming Scandal not Commerce City! So what are you talking about?
Jerry's 72K was for a loss reported on a house in AZ that turned out to be a gain.
You have to keep up!
Gateway,
Can you get proof from Commerce City that the City Manager paid for his house that we gave him, with the correct interest.
Is it common knowledge that one time money the city receives is to be used for one time projects. What will this money be used for?
Also, can you find out why we need to pay our city manager in Commerce City or should I say City Manager(s) more then double the car allowance as such city as Brighton?
Can you find out why we paid the city manager $72,000.00 for a house loss in value in Arizona that in fact was a gain?
It was said that all this is done because the city manager is worth every penny. Can you find out why he is worth every penny? What specific things has he done?
Lastly, in 2009 there was a proposal for the Evaluation Policy for City Manager. This was prepared for and submitted by Council Members Reba Drotar and Jason McElowdoney. Whatever happened to that, was it approved? If not, why? More specifically in section 5.0 of that proposed Evaluation of Policy for City Manager is says a Press Release will be prepared in 3 working day following the executive session regarding the city manager's evaluation. Did the Gateway News ever get any such Press Release?
thanks.
I already know is decided that we in Commerce City are going to make the business incentives permanent. That is fine, as long as it will bring in NEW (key word being NEW) business. Other wise I don't think it is the best thing to try to race to the bottom just because we are trying to compete with Denver, Brighton, Thornton, and others.
jealous people, get over the 72k. It was perfectly legal and part of a recruitment process.
There are thousands of people who get unbelievable deals during a recruitment process.
Not waging a class war but very few of the hourly wage workforce will get those type deals and always cry foul.
"Don't hate the player, hate the game."
A good example: yearly bonus's from 5k to over 50K are given to many employees and you, yes YOU! pay them because it's worked into product pricing of just about every product or service you purchase. We are purchasing services from the city in the form of taxation.
It's a competitive market out there and recruiting 100k+ talent is hard.
Everyone including those who can't balance their personal finances, businesses or relationships feel they can do better. Yeah, can barely speak, read and can't solve basic mathematical problems but want to make complex financial decisions for a city.
The northern enclave is still growing despite the slower economy and I will support separating from cc as we grow.
Even the council members from the south can't wait for that so they can get back to good ole days....
Maybe the prosecutor will offer Perry V. a deal for information on known wrong doing of past cc council and or mayors.
Food for thought
ANSWERS FROM THE GATEWAY NEWS TO Hard Questions from a Concerned Citizen said...
OUR ANSWERS WILL BE IN ALL CAPS TO MAKE IT EASY TO READ
Gateway,
Can you get proof from Commerce City that the City Manager paid for his house that we gave him, with the correct interest. WE HAVE TRIED TO OBTAIN THIS ANSWER BUT HAVE RECEIVED NO PROOF YET. WE MADE AN INFORMATION REQUEST BUT THE CITY IS STONEWALLING.
Is it common knowledge that one time money the city receives is to be used for one time projects. What will this money be used for? YOU ARE CORRECT IT SHOULD BE ONE TIME MONEY FOR ONE TIME USE BUT THE CITY DID SAY (IF IT IS PAID) THAT IT WOULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND. WE NEED TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS POLICY AS IT IS BROKEN QUITE OFTEN.
Also, can you find out why we need to pay our city manager in Commerce City or should I say City Manager(s) more then double the car allowance as such city as Brighton? THE CITY MANAGERS CAR ALLOWANCE IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL SO WE WILL ASK THEM. THE ASSISTANTS CAR ALLOWANCE IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY MANAGER SO WE WILL ASK HIM.
Can you find out why we paid the city manager $72,000.00 for a house loss in value in Arizona that in fact was a gain? THIS WAS A DECISION MADE BY CITY COUNCIL BASED ON THE CITY MANAGER NOT REVEALING THE TRUTH OF THE SITUATION TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME. SO CITY COUNCIL MADE A DECSION BASED ON AN UNTRUTH.
It was said that all this is done because the city manager is worth every penny. Can you find out why he is worth every penny? What specific things has he done? WE WILL ASK FOR A SPECIFIC LIST OF GOALS HE HAS MET AND PROJECTS COMPLETED. IT IS DIFFICULT TO SAY THAT AN EMPLOYEE IS "WORTH" ANY MONETARY AMOUNT WHEN THERE ARE NO GOALS SET OR ACHIEVED BUT WE WILL ASK.
Lastly, in 2009 there was a proposal for the Evaluation Policy for City Manager. This was prepared for and submitted by Council Members Reba Drotar and Jason McElowdoney. Whatever happened to that, was it approved? If not, why? More specifically in section 5.0 of that proposed Evaluation of Policy for City Manager is says a Press Release will be prepared in 3 working day following the executive session regarding the city manager's evaluation. Did the Gateway News ever get any such Press Release? WE WILL ASK JASON MCELDOWNEY. THE GATEWAY NEWS HAS NEVER RECEIVED ANY PRESS RELEASE ABOUT ANY EVALUATIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY ATTORNEY. THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE ANY POLICY BUT WE WILL ASK.
thanks.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND WATCH THE BLOG FOR ANSWERS AND RESPONSES THAT WE POST AS EVERYONE GETS BACK TO OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS.
Everyone needs to really understand the tax incentive that was given to the new King Soopers in the north. It works like this. You go into King Soopers and you buy groceries and other items and you pay sales tax on thos items. Since King Soopers is located in Commerce City that sales tax should be collected by Commerce City and used to build roads, parks, recreations centers BUT that won't happen because King Sooopers will get to keep all that money up to $2,000,000. So citizens you are PAYING King Soopers to build the store, right out of your own pocket and you are forgoing other things that you might need in your city. Big price to pay just because we don't have experienced professional staff to just attract the stores we need.
If this city elects Robert Toavs as mayor then you get everything you deserve. Hang out at the Werthwhile Inn and you can see your "new mayor" in all his glory. What a joke! VOTE FOR SEAN FORD FOR MAYOR.
whoever posted that there is more crime in the north please check out the actual crime statistics on the map, you are wrong, much more crime in the south of commerce city
http://www.c3gov.com/index.aspx?NID=462
"jealous people, get over the 72k":
I assume you do realize that you are talking about tax payer money?
$72k to City Manager was part of a recruitment process? That is odd. It happened many years later.
Maybe a secret deal?
I found this, at least some good news for PERRY VANDEVENTER and COMMERCE CITY
http://co.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.%5CFDCT%5CDCO%5C2009%5C20090415_0002232.DCO.htm/qx
I have a suggestion:
Because our own Mayor in Commerce City can not keep Percents and Dollars straight for our own reserves.
I would like to see a policy that whenever a Council member or city staff member talks about money, they have to do it in Dollars and Percents.
They should not ever talk about city money in just percents. It is too much of a spin.
No doubt people are getting smarter in this city.
From the Commerce City's Mayor twitter:
"WOW. did I ever make a mistake. Not the first, certainly not the last. Wrote dollars instead of percent for surplus. 40 lashes for me"
"We had a 17 million dollar surplus four years ago.It is now $22million during the worst financial times in decades.Let's get it right!"
Reply to: jealous people, get over the 72k. It was perfectly legal and part of a recruitment process.
Jealous that your council members in Commerce City did this?
That is why we are all laughing at Commerce City.
No matter what you guys try to do, you are still same old Commerce City.
Problem with commerce city and commerce city council is that they treat their relationship with the city managers more as a friend/buddy relationship instead of a professional one.
I don't think Commerce City should have turned the fountains off. These are not the "greatest fans".
View at your own risk:
http://youtu.be/i8PSrR5J8Qo
Westword: Phish Story: A fight on Shakedown Street left one man in stitches and another fearing for his family...
http://t.co/HmXEe49a
Oh my God! I don't think Phish should come back to Commerce City anymore.
Hard to understand numbers for some of you, who like to bring up the "deal" that the city gave Flannery.
He took a contract, didn't write it. In fact it was written by someone not even on council and sold to the rest by that council member and one current one.
If you buy something for (I'll give you easy numbers)
200,000 dollars, put into it 70,000 dollars to improve it and sell it for 265,000 dollars you did NOT make 65,000 dollars.
Get over the contract, it is done.
Get a life!
The Gateway loves to push this as they hate Flannery.
Flannery can be terminated with no severance for dishonest behavior - prove he lied about the sale of his house (or at least withheld the truth)and the problem is solved and you can send him and his hoard of inexperienced and unqualified new hires packing (you will have to of course put someone in charge in the interim with experience to cleanup the mess - the City has plenty of long time employees with the knowledge, skills and abilities to do that). If the current Council won't do it - I sure hope the new one has the courage to do it given NONE of them will have to save face because they hired him.
That Video is really bad. It could be used as a tutorial for some of these haunted houses.
I always was curious about Phish, but after this video and the guy dying. I think my curiosity is gone.
Flannery bought his AZ house and left it as a "fix it upper".
I will post proof on this later on.
Funny how regular people can find these things out, but our council is too incompetent to do so!
Lets face it, council gave their buddy, their friend a "sweetheart deal" and got caught.
Entire Metro area agrees, except for some on Commerce City Council.
The Commerce City Manager has brought us out of the most difficult times in our living history as a city. He did this rather well.
Is he worth the very small amount that CC council gave he for relocation fee. Bottom line: Yes, Yes, oh Yes he is!
to pro-city 3,
wow that is a lot of praise for a CM that surrounds himself by other people to do his job for him.
also a lot of praise for someone who is nothing more then a lobbyist.
In the Know, you don't know crap ( oh sorry....that is exactly what you know..crap)
I doubt the contract was written on "conditions that his house couldn't make money" so sorry that wouldn't make him dishonest.
When Vandeventer left he got severance and he was a drunk.
I work in the metro area business/political area.
You are also full of crap in your ideas about that.
The word there is CC will go back to the ways of old. ie: Adams county reputation.
I love you Archer, you are always good for a laugh because you are a joke.
The time has come for us to really look at this too:
http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2011/09/28/denvers-residential-trash-and-recycling-program-costs-homes-about-10-a-month/41278/
We can no longer sustain this madness, we are no longer the city of 4,500. We are 45,000 with plans to eventually double that.
We need to act on this soon. I hope that you all know and understand that this will not be the end of free trash service in Commerce City.
As far as de-Brucing, I am sorry that someone made a promise to you. It was irresponsible for any politician to make a promise forever. If it is too good to be true, then as the saying says. It most likely is.
I heard that the city gave the Gateway a sweetheart deal that the Gateway didn't deliver on. So the Gateway lost there exclusive city business. Hense the anger from the Gateway to Flannery and the current city council.
RE: CC will go back to the ways of old. ie: Adams county reputation.
Sorry to say, but I agree with this.
Yes,
Flannery deserves everything we gave him.
He is worth it and we are Commerce City, we have to get what we can.
only a council member who is embarrassed by his or her actions would try and attack the messenger.
I hope your not talking about CC council. I would follow them into battle.
How dare thee talk bad about our fearless leaders.
To be fair, the deal with Flannery was by (I heard) Jason and Reba.
Mayor and others were just along for the ride. Giving their buddy a good deal.
Didn't GN have a hand in the old CM too?
Lets just keep it all on the up and up and maybe there would be nothing to talk about.
Also, CC Sentinel Express did a story on this.
What is there excuses, not to mention DP, ch. 7, ch. 9, WestWord.
Maybe they all hate Jerry Flannery?
Or maybe, just maybe it was gov. waste at its best.
Maybe if things are so wrong in Commerce City some of you should get off your computers and RUN FOR OFFICE!
Turn out for Mayor was dismal pathetic!
Re Community Leadership Academy
What? Not enough kids? Bash our district? Does Community Leadership Academy need to start rallying for students to make October count a profitable one? Oh yeah I forgot, the executive director has to meet his payroll for his yearly $100,000.00 salary.
NO NEED TO BASH THE DISTRICT! THAT IS DONE ALL BY ITSELF!
CLA IS A FAR BETTER CHOICE!
WANT TO COMPARE CSAP?!
GN,
There is no need to prove yourself by publishing anti-gateway comments. We all know who is doing it.
Your a private business.
They are just testing you, to see how far they can push you.
Don't play their game.
Point taken...
Everyone I talk too in the business community is happy with Commerce City.
Does anyone know what City Manager Jerry Flannery got on his latest evaluation? City should do a press release as it says in the policy brought forth by Jason and Reba.
I heard there is going to be an official holiday in Commerce City. Paul Natale day? Any truth or just another rumor?
Commerce City Council directs an ordnance to be made for a sunset on elected officials retirement fund?
If they are going to do this, why not get a good consensuses on the trash fee?
What is the real difference. Both are being responsible with the tax payers money.
Okay,
I Challenge All of you to Concentrate on the positive on our city.
No doubt Commerce City is a city of opinions, I get it.
Who is willing to accept my Challenge?
Who has enough Class to take this on? I double dare you.
I accept!
We are getting a King Soopers in the North!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Going up fast.
Going to make life in the north great.
Also excited to see what else will go on the Pads surrounding it.
Win win win win for everyone.
Something positive in CC?
Okay, did you know that CCED is down in Denver with a site selector for possible businesses to come.
That is very positive.
Also, CC Nationally Recognized Business incentive program will most likely become permanent!
All positive things for CC.
I got something positive for Commerce City.
There are a couple of influential people talking about starting a Commerce City Chamber of Commerce.
Not to repeat something already reported, but commerce city if getting a boys and girls club.
This has been a long time coming and has.
I take this positive, some might not.
Commerce City had an excellent turn out for people stepping up for council positions and D14 board positions.
I applaud the entire city.
hmmm. interesting. okay I will ply along.
El Jarrdin in Derby has the best sopaipilla in the world.
More of a fact then something positive.
Joe gets charged clcik here!
Can you imagine if Commerce City could score a aero-tech company!
Lets all stay positive! It could happen!
I am convinced Archer works for the city and is a disgruntled employee.
I would like to see Commerce City Council take the money from the retirement fund that would have been used in the future and give the Council a Pay Raise.
I know this is bad timing. But I really do think they deserve it.
They all do work hard and sacrifice a lot.
It is a hard job. And with today with the instant information. It is even harder.
So do not just dismiss this idea. Really think about it.
Makes perfect sense to me.
I am excited about the Kings Soopers site.
Just watch the next few months.
The domino affect will follow them and many, many more retail businesses will come to 104th.
Groceries bring other business.
Thanks Shea, thanks KS and CC
Yea!!
So In the Know:
you can spred the dirt but you and the Gateway( most likely one in the same) can't take the stuff told about you.
Yea....don't print the stuff, you don't have to, you can control what you put out!
Parents and Community for 27J Presents Carnival and Car Show, Oct. 1st, 1pm to 6pm at the Prairie Center 144th and Highway 76...
Come shop for some excellent bargains and help support the Commerce City Historical Society on Thursday, October 6, and Friday, October 7, from 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM and Saturday, October 8, from 8:00 AM to Noon. Enjoy free coffee or hot chocolate all three days. Print this page and bring the orange flyer for 5% off total purchases on Friday or Saturday. For more information call 303-745-8103. Be sure to spread the word and bring your friends.
Thursday, October 6 at 8:00am - October 8 at 12:00pm
Commerce City Historical Society Building 7450 Highway 2 Commerce City, CO
From CC Mayor Twitter:
"Almost everything that the site selectors talk about as how to bring businesses here, our ED department is already doing"
IS this a cause for concern? Fact nothing is happening?
Wes, my view is it just an example of the state of the economy.
Businesses are slow to grow and very very cautious.
Glad we are at least ahead of the game, doing what needs to be done.
Commerce City is very much prepared for anything that comes our way as far as economic development.
It will come.
Look at that, I checked my status of being a voter and didn't change it from Douglas.
Sept. 30 - Members needed for Commerce City Boards and Commissions: Cultural Council, Planning Commission,... http://tinyurl.com/3kvqhbr
Commerce City Fraternal Order of Police Endorse 2011 Council Candidates Ford, Benson, Teter, Elliott, Douglas... http://t.co/OUk7isqa
I bet Natalie is upset with FOP 19.
What the cc cops didnt want to endorse Toavs for mayor? Wonder why? hmmmmm
We are always told that Commerce City has all this money because of industry.
I urge the council to not pass Ordinance 1873 that is coming up on first reading.
The people who are willing to step up to the plate and lead this city need a small token of appreciation.
This is nothing but a drop in the bucket.
No on Ordinance 1873
I cant imagine the FOP supporting Benson, I thought they were smarter than that.
Wonder what he promised them (course he is a big union person), guess that's all they needed.
When is Tracey announcing her endorsement of Harvest Thomas to fill her seat in Ward IV? He's the Democrat running. Of course she'll endorse a fellow Democrat....right?
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